Andrew ‘Boz’ Bosworth, Meta CTO and Reality Labs chief, has publicly apologized to Palmer Luckey, founder of Oculus who was ousted from the company in 2017 for political reasons.

To this day, Meta (ex-Facebook) never publicly confirmed why Luckey was fired, with CEO Mark Zuckerberg even going on record in a U.S. congressional hearing in 2018, saying Luckey’s ousting “was not because of a political view.”

It was however a political action that ostensibly gained Luckey notoriety among company leadership that led to his ousting in March 2017, only three years after Meta acquired Oculus for $2 billion.

Oculus founder Palmer Luckey on stage at Oculus Connect 2015 | Photo courtesy Oculus

“I got fired for no reason. I gave $10,000 to a pro-Trump group, and I think that’s something to do with it,” Luckey said in a 2018 Wall Street Journal interview, referencing his 2016 donation to an anti-Hillary Clinton ad campaign called ‘Nimble America’.

This has understandably left some bad blood between Luckey and Meta at large over the years, with Luckey exiting the consumer XR space entirely with the founding of his own defense technology company, Anduril Industries.

Carmack’s Regret, Boz & Luckey Showdown

Former Oculus CTO John Carmack, who left the company in 2022, reignited the smoldering flame this April in post on X, saying he regretted “not doing more to support and defend Palmer Luckey at Facebook.” According to Carmack, if former Oculus founders had united, things may have panned out differently.

“Unfortunately, FB encouraged ‘bring your whole self to work’, which meant politics was openly present, and rabble rousing was a thing,” Carmack said in a follow-up post. “I would guess that an employee referendum would have gone against Palmer, but it might have been different if there was a unified front of Oculus founders behind him.”

John Carmack at Oculus Connect 5 | Image courtesy Oculus

Additionally, Carmack said he believed Luckey’s firing was due to “hysterical internal employee pressure,” noting further he “[didn’t] think Mark Zuckerberg had a strong personal view on it.”

As a programming luminary and one of the clearest windows into Meta’s internal workings during his time there, when Carmack speaks, it tends to carry a lot of weight, which prompted current Bosworth to enter the conversational fray.

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Responding to Carmack, Bosworth called him “woefully incorrect” on his speculation of an employee referendum to oust Luckey, further stating “I am not in a position to correct [,] except to say maybe don’t speculate!”

Then, when Boz claimed he actually defended Luckey before his ousting, it didn’t sit right with the aggrieved party. Here’s Luckey’s response:

“Great story to tell now that I have dragged myself back to relevance, but you aren’t credible. You retweeted posts claiming I donated to white supremacists, and a post saying that anyone who supports Trump because they don’t like Hillary Clinton is a shitty human being. You publicly told everyone my departure had nothing to do with politics, which is absolutely insane and obviously contradicted by reams of internal communications. It is like saying the sky is green. Same goes for you telling people that I wasn’t pressured into saying anything untrue, that any mention of politics and who I was voting for was up to me. Can I post my original statement, the one that was explicitly rejected on account of saying negative things about Hillary Clinton, or is that still considered Work Product? Maybe you are lying, maybe you are just ignorant and willing to launder the lies of others about something you weren’t even around for, but don’t try to play the apolitical hero here.”

If you want to see two multi-millionaires who aren’t running for political office argue with each other, don’t miss the rest of the thread.

Boz Brokers Peace

Nearly five months since the online rift, Luckey was actually invited back to the Meta mothership for the first time since his departure in 2017, where he got a chance to not only try out the company’s Orion AR glasses prototype, but also received a face-to-face apology from Bosworth, which the Meta CTO echoed in a recent post on X.

“I’m glad you came by to check out Orion. I mentioned this in person, but I also wanted to publicly apologize for my previous comments about your time at (then) Oculus. I’m sorry,” Bosworth said. “After reading the recent Tablet piece I dug into some of the events that preceded my time when a different set of people who are no longer at the company were running the group. It turns out I was misinformed but that’s no excuse and since I wasn’t involved I should never have said anything. I’m grateful for the impact you made at the company and in developing VR overall. Looking forward to showing you more of our work in the future.”

Palmer Luckey demoing Meta Orion AR prototype | Image courtesy Palmer Luckey

“Thanks, Boz. Apology accepted,” Luckey responded. “I am infamously good at holding grudges, but Meta has changed a lot over the past 8 years. The people responsible for my ouster and internal/external smear campaign aren’t even around anymore. At some point, the Ship of Theseus has sailed.”

Luckey further stated it was “pretty surreal to be back on campus with you guys, Orion alone was well worth the trip. It is more or less exactly what I would have wanted to accomplish.”

The Tablet exposé referenced by Boz even had kind words directly from Zuckerberg, which Luckey highlights in an X post as not coming from the usual “PR flunkey”:

“I have a huge amount of respect for Palmer—both for what he’s done for VR and for now achieving the rare feat of building multiple successful companies,” Zuckerberg told Tablet in a statement this month, his first regarding Luckey in several years. “He’s an impressive free-thinker and fun to work with. I was sad when his time at Meta came to an end, but the silver lining is that his work at Anduril is going to be extremely important for our national security. I’m glad an entrepreneur of his caliber is working on these problems. I hope we can find ways to work together in the future.”

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  • ViRGiN

    That was in April. It is October now. It was today on Reddit subs, and is now front page here at r2vr?

    Pathetic. Did you run out of ideas? Then cover visor more and call it directly a scam – there has been new hands on videos from some YouTubers (not sadly bradley) which proves it's a scam. Then you have a new official video, which is several years ahead in development but that version is never demoed. I wonder why huh?

    Scott are you afraid of the word scam?

    • Ondrej

      The apology post was today,

      • ViRGiN

        Palmer himself is yet to apologize for scamming thousands of people who he sold CV1 to.

        • Ondrej

          Nice strawman, but this has nothing to do with your first post or my reply.

    • another juan

      don't know about visor enough to have an opinion yet, but i know that luckey has a personal grudge against valve (or some of its former employees) which is never mentioned in media, while his former issues with meta are mentioned at every chance.

      • ViRGiN

        Go on, I’m listening.

        • another juan

          palmer talked about it on "voices of vr" podcast maybe a year ago. i assumed you'd know it since you're so focused on that particular company

  • Jeff

    It's not "hysterical" to want to stamp out pro T bag politics in the work place if you're one of many "others" / minorities that get targeted and threatened by said politics. Let's not pretend that we are discussing normal right / left policies – we are talking facism and ending democracy. Turns out a lot of people are really offended by that.

    All he had to do was shut his mouth about his terrible world views and discreetly donate like most other rich a-holes, and it wouldn't have been an issue.

    • Ondrej

      All he had to do was shut his mouth

      FREE SPEECH IS A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY
      — Joseph Stalin

    • gothicvillas

      You have mixed up things, democracy ending fascism is on the left with Democrats

    • Cl

      Spoken like a true lunatic.

    • Orogogus

      Luckey never really said anything before he was ousted. He donated to a PAC that erected one relatively bland anti-Hillary billboard. And I think people dug up that his partner liked a social media post about illegal immigration. It looked very much to me, a California Democrat, like a witch hunt against anyone who dares to openly be Republican, which I guess plays well online but I think is a terrible strategy in real life. I think web warriors are practically trying to lose elections by attacking anyone who's not already in their camp, like swing voters. I think Trump would have walked the 2020 election if it hadn't been for COVID-19, and the DNC should be using all available tactics to pull some of the voters who voted Trump over to Harris. Meanwhile people online are trying to demonize (e.g., calling them fascists) every single donor and voter who's ever expressed anything in favor of Trump or his policies, and writing off every one of the 47% of voters who chose him — shrinking the tent at a time when it needs to be bigger.

      What fascist and anti-Democratic views has Luckey espoused? If it's just that he supports Trump or Cruz, then I think this is a terrible strategy that pushes people to the other side in a time when elections are routinely very close.

  • Ondrej

    This is great!

    However, one has to wonder if this change of heart (and even praise) would actually have happened if not for the success Luckey achieved again after leaving? Or how the "current thing" opinion on morality of building weapons changed after the war started in Ukraine?

    Because similar thing happened outside of Meta. There were some influencers and journalists apologizing to him for their previous smear campaigns after the invasion happened. It's like elementary school kids learning the basics of how the world works, except they are old and educated.

    Can you imagine Zuck saying that Luckey's work on weapons is "extremely important" 3+ years ago or if the war in Ukraine never happened?
    A lot of these people care far more about being in the "current correct opinion" bag than having any principles.

    • ViRGiN

      You don't know anything about how successful Palmer is other than what he tells in media. Yeah, he lives in a big house, has many toys and ton of cash. But I'm yet to se US military adopting his toys?

      If there is any success, it's not really his success, it's his team. Palmer couldn't even write a line of code for DK1.

    • Cl

      I think it has more to do with a shift in politics. It is being revealed to normal people how crazy the left is becoming so it is slowly becoming less popular. Meta isn't the only one.