CCP Games, an Icelandic game studio known for the long running EVE: Online MMO and their eager jump into and eventual backpedaling in the VR space, has been acquired by Korea-based developer Pearl Abyss, the studio behind the MMO Black Desert Online. The surprise acquisition, which cost Pearl Abyss $425 million, according to VentureBeat, combines two prominent MMO developers from two different sides of the globe.

While CCP Games was a pioneer in the VR space, having leapt into the medium with Gunjack (2015), Gunjack 2 (2016), EVE: Valkyrie (2016), and Sparc (2017), the storied studio is best known for EVE: Online, a non-VR sci-fi MMO that the company has been operating for more than 15 years.

Having such experience building the complex virtual world of EVE: Online, it made sense for CCP feel right at home building for the burgeoning VR medium. The company had jumped into VR feet first, beginning development on several large titles well before consumer VR headsets had begun shipping in earnest. In 2015, the company raised $30 million to support their VR development.

Players trying an early version of ‘EVE: Valkyrie’ back on the Rift DK1 headset

Unfortunately the company’s bullishness ultimately didn’t pan out; with VR seeing a much slower initial uptick than many had hoped, the studio wasn’t able to sustain a healthy playerbase in its multiplayer-focused VR titles. In 2017 CCP announced they’d have to step back from VR development—closing one office dedicated to VR and selling another—even while saying they continued to have faith in VR’s long term success. Despite the shuttered offices, EVE: Valkyrie and Sparc remain functional today.

The acquisition by Pearl Abyss joins two major MMO studios from very different parts of the world. The studio’s Black Desert Online, a third-person fantasy MMO, has grown in popularity since its 2014 launch; the company says the game has 10 million registered users.

Image courtesy Pearl Abyss

Pearl Abyss went public on the Korean stock market in 2017, now with a $2.6 billion market cap, and since that time says it has “worked to secure competitive global IPs, such as EVE: Online, through strategic investments and M&A activity.”

“We are thrilled to have CCP Games join our team as Black Desert Online continues to branch out globally. CCP is a seasoned publisher with over 15 years of digital distribution experience and know-how,” said Pearl Abyss CEO Robin Jung as part of the announcement. “They have done an incredible job of engaging and maintaining their playerbase, which we aim to learn from and hope to integrate natively into Pearl Abyss’ general practices across all our games. I am confident CCP’s reputable IP and expertise in global publishing will help reaffirm our company’s dedication to developing and servicing the world’s best MMORPGs.”

“I have been seriously impressed with what Pearl Abyss has achieved ever since I first visited their website for Black Desert Online and subsequently became an avid player of the game,” said CCP Games CEO Hilmar Veigar Pétursson. “Pearl Abyss is a fast-growing company with lots to offer in terms of technology, capability and vision. I believe our two companies have a lot to learn from each other. We are very excited to join forces with them and achieve great new heights for our companies, our games and – above all – our players.

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Considering the lengthy 21 year history of CCP Games, the acquisition comes as quite a surprise. It isn’t entirely clear if CCP Games was in need of a buyer after its big 2015 bet on VR content didn’t pan out, or if Pearl Abyss simply saw a strategic opportunity and was able to make an offer that CCP couldn’t refuse.

According to Pearl Abyss, CCP Games will “continue to operate independently as a developer with studios in Reykjavik, London and Shanghai, while integrating the company’s extensive development and publishing expertise into Pearl Abyss’ operations for all current and future projects.”

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  • Raphael

    “Unfortunately the company’s bullishness ultimately didn’t pan out; with VR seeing a much slower initial uptick than many had hoped, the studio wasn’t able to sustain a healthy playerbase in its multiplayer-focused VR titles. ” << The game disappointed many at launch because they'd hoped Valkyrie would be a serious space sim. The game was actually an arena space shooter. The second issue was the premium price CCP held almost the entire length they were developing it. Given the disappointment of not being a space sim coupled with the premium price is what killed sales. When CCP eventually realised things weren't going well they added a tiny 2d rectangle mode to widen the audience as well as dropping the price. Too little too late.

    It was somewhat unfortunate because Valkyrie was very good for what it was… an arena space shooter equivalent to Elite Dangerous arena mode. CCP even added VRworks support which boosted graphics performance significantly for Nvidia users with 9 and 10 series GPU.

    What annoys me is the continued sale of this game along with their other abandoned game: Sparc. These games should be free since they were abandoned and no longer receive new content or updates. The acquisition of the company won't benefit VR users at all.

    • JJ

      “These games should be free…”
      what the fuck is wrong with you?

      Entitled much?

      Oh they’re working on another game so yeah they’re previous work that they spent so much time on should no be free.
      When a new tv from Samsung, an iphone from apple, or google pixel comes out that doesn’t make the previous ones free even when they stop updating them.

      The fact that you think anything should be free just goes to show how far under a rock you live and how much time you spend jerking it to anime.

      • Raphael

        They abandoned VR games… they are still charging £25 for their ABANDONED game. They are NOT developing any new VR games and NOT continuing support for Valkyrie so you can shove your opinion up KingVR’s ass.

        • JJ

          aww is little raphole gona cry again today?

          Again if you think it should be free you’re just entitled and ignorant. 25 is well worth what the game offers. just because your mommy isnt paying for your games anymore doesn’t mean they should all match your minuscule budget. which looks like 0 cause you want things for free.
          Hey want to come mow my lawn, for free?

          and whats sad is that you had to block me because I stopped you from trolling… I’m never going to let your troll shit manifest on here.

          • Raphael

            You spent the entire day yesterday desperately seeking my attention and even making it apparent you’re trying for a gay relationship. I don’t know you, not interested in you as a friend, a sex partner or even an enemy.

            So once again I return to denying you the privilege of personalized responses from me…


            JJ Raphael • a minute ago
            aww is little raphole gona cry again today?

            Again if you think it should be free you’re just entitled and ignorant. 25 is well worth what the game offers. just because your mommy isnt paying for your games anymore doesn’t mean they should all match your minuscule budget. which looks like 0 cause you want things for free.
            Hey want to come mow my lawn, for free?

            and whats sad is that you had to block me because I stopped you from trolling… I’m never going to let your troll shit manifest on here.”

          • JJ

            poor poor raphi, you start out talking so much smack but the second someone challenges you with facts you run away like a little girl.

    • KingVR

      Anyone who says games should be free, is an entitled wanker….

      • Raphael

        Anyone who thinks saying one particular ABANDONED game should be free is the same as saying all games should be free is a fucking moron.

        • KingVR

          “These games…” -Raphael

          that refers to more than one particular game….

          Try turning your brain on before you post things

          • Raphael

            “KingVR Raphael • 5 minutes ago
            Anyone who says games should be free, is an entitled wanker….” << You didn;t say "these games" u dumb cunt.

          • KingVR

            what? thats a straw man logical fallacy. try again ass hat

          • Raphael

            “KingVR Raphael • 22 minutes ago
            Anyone who says games should be free, is an entitled wanker….” << Like I said… Your idiot sentence implies I'm suggesting all games should be free. It could be your IQ is so fucking low that you really don't understand your own words.

            My issue isn't with "games". It's with this specific ABANDONED game. Now jog-on u tedious twat.

          • KingVR

            no my statement suggests ANY game not ALL games, you dumb ass. thats pretty blatant and obvious, but i guess to someone whos head is that far up their ass it’d be hard to see.

            Just because theyre not continuing to update a game past release doesnt make it abandon, and that most certainly doesn’t qualify them to be free. God damn idk why i have to explain this to you…. you must be so dumb.

          • Raphael

            The game is abandoned dickshite. Forum closed and no further fixes. I ain’t here to listen to your cuntybollocks so jog-on into block-land.

            So from this point on u will have to do the same as your buddy jj… post from an anonymous troll account if you can’t get enough of me :)

          • JJ

            remember raphole, as i proved via evidence yesterday, YOU are the troll, anything I do is a direct retaliation to shit you’re spreading. maybe try not trolling and you wont get people like me up in your shit.

          • Raphael

            JJ Raphael • a few seconds ago
            remember raphole, as i proved via evidence yesterday, YOU are the troll, anything I do is a direct retaliation to shit you’re spreading. maybe try not trolling and you wont get people like me up in your shit.

          • JJ

            poor poor raphole, looks like other people are finally chiming in on your shit posts.

          • Raphael

            JJ Raphael • 8 minutes ago
            poor poor raphole, looks like other people are finally chiming in on your shit posts.

          • JJ

            poor poor raphole, looks like other people are finally chiming in on your shit posts.

          • KingVR

            well jj actually brings things to the table, you however just talk shit and cant back it up.

    • jkGamer

      you just like to start trouble dont you?

      • Raphael

        I don’t back down from troublemakers JJ. Suggest you stop your trolling on multiple accounts. I do think R2VR should stop allowing guest accounts for trolls like you to post from.

        • jkGamer

          what? because i disagree with you, now im grouped in with jj?
          if you think everyone’s making troll accounts just to heckle you then maybe you need to wake up and realize you’re the one causing the issues. damn, some people …

          p.s. no they shouldn’t because I dont want to have to sign up and give rtovr my email just to tell you how wrong you are.

          • Raphael

            Did I say I thought EVERYONE was making troll accounts to heckle me? I’m not a paranoid cunt. It’s a small percentage of ultra-low IQ muppets. One of which doesn’t know “insight” from “incite”, hates oculus and is a developer for oculusGO (in other words he’s unemployed).

            So… I really have zero fucking interest in your view beyond VR gaming. If you want to discuss VR gaming that’s fine with me. But your opinion on trolling while you’re trolling from a guest account is of zero fucking interest matey.

          • jkGamer

            man you’re on some other shit…. stop taking meth dude cause your mind is so depleted you’re picking fights with anybody that comments towards you. idk what your talking about with half of waht you just said. you’re the equivalent of an old lady yelling at strangers on the corner.

          • Raphael

            So for anyone inclined to think jj/jk is getting bullied:

            “JJ Raphael • a day ago
            Raphael sucks donkey balls

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            Raphael JJ • a day ago
            JJ Raphael • a minute ago
            Raphael sucks donkey balls

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            JJ Raphael • a day ago
            haha really? nice! well at least we can agree on something. Man its hilarious you’ve resorted to mockery :D just proves my points even more. Its like the more you talk the easier you make this for me.

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            Raphael JJ • a day ago
            JJ Raphael • 4 minutes ago
            haha really? nice! well at least we can agree on something. Man its hilarious you’ve resorted to mockery :D just proves my points even more. Its like the more you talk the easier you make this for me.

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            JJ Raphael • a day ago
            oh flappy where’d you go? I wasn’t done playing with you.

            Usually when little girls like you mock people its because you like that person. I’m getting a romantic vibe from you raphole, Are you in love with me??”

            A small excert from yesterday. At a certain point I decided to stop dialog and just repeat what the troll was saying. This went on pretty much all day. jj spent the entire day trying to get a personalized response from me.

          • JJ

            haha you just took a play out of my playbook… if you look at the thread you will see that 90% of the time i’m quoting back troll remarks you made. Just because you snipped out the one aprt where i was treating you the same way doesn’t make it true. youre still the troll

            “octopisVR” – started using in first comment
            “Shit might not be clear to you flappy” – 2nd post in replying to someone nicely saying they disagree(i wasnt even there yet)
            “Jog-on You boring warmongery muppet.”
            “You’re scum. Now fuck off and die troll.”
            “Get a job you useless lazy scum”
            “cunt? Jog-on u useless fecke”
            “You’re a cunT”

            and it goes on like that for a long time.
            So next time you try to bring hard evidence, like i did yesterday, make sure you have enough of it.

          • Raphael

            JJ Raphael • 6 minutes ago
            haha you just took a play out of my playbook… if you look at the thread you will see that 90% of the time i’m quoting back troll remarks you made. Just because you snipped out the one aprt where i was treating you the same way doesn’t make it true. youre still the troll

            “octopisVR” – started using in first comment
            “Shit might not be clear to you flappy” – 2nd post in replying to someone nicely saying they disagree(i wasnt even there yet)
            “Jog-on You boring warmongery muppet.”
            “You’re scum. Now fuck off and die troll.”
            “Get a job you useless lazy scum”
            “cunt? Jog-on u useless fecke”
            “You’re a cunT”

            and it goes on like that for a long time.
            So next time you try to bring hard evidence, like i did yesterday, make sure you have enough of it.

          • JJ

            mockery makes you look like a child :) so keep it up baby boy

          • Raphael

            crockery makes you shit like a child: ) so keep it up baby toy

  • Raphael

    I followed this game long before it came to market. My octopus rift friend got it “free” with his CV1. I waited until the Vive version was launched and then purchased immediately at full price. Liked the fast-pace arena combat. Spent a lot of time defending the game from haters who unfairly compared it to elite dangerous (a full space sim not an arena shooter).

    The point at which I stopped defending CCP was the point they abandoned the game and blamed the VR market.

    OSSIC have done the same with their over-hyped kickstarter headphones. Taken money and run away with it using the lamest excuse ever.

    Interestingly… whenever people trashed Valkyrie on grounds of “too expensive”, I suggested that £40 was reasonable for a game with no end and FREE content updates.

    And now there are a few trolls here posting from guest accounts who don’t like what I have to say…. Like I give a shit.

    • jkGamer

      so your solution is that they just scrap all the work they’ve done and give it out for free…. could you get any more stupid.

      • Raphael

        Yes cunt, that’s my solution and it’s clearly a brilliant one. Are you aware that much more expensive software has been scrapped and given away for free over the past 100 years? Could you get anymore dumberer with your troll account?

        • jkGamer

          why the fuck are you telling me about jj, i dont give a fuck about him/her. It looks to me like you’re the one out of control here.
          get your shit together.

          and if you have to tell people that your idea is brilliant then its probably not.

          • Raphael

            I do not give a flying fuck what it looks like to you. You’re just a troll on a fake guest account making jj noises.

            The fact that you think my “brilliant idea” line was anything other than a joke proves you’re IQ matches jj perfectly.,.. and thus u are jj. Now fuckoff and die.

            P. S. Any further bollocks from you will get the same treatment I give your other fake troll account.

          • jkGamer

            so is jj just what you call people who think you’re wrong?? cause you’re about to be calling every single person jj.

            And again if you’re going around telling everyone you have a high IQ then it most likely means you’re the one with the lowest IQ.

            and btw, jj was right you are an entitled asshole.

          • jkGamer

            and based off the entire paragraph you dedicated to why you think it should be free, were all going to assume your brilliant line was not a joke. I don’t think it was a joke i think you actually think its a smart idea. which is hilarious.

          • Raphael

            “were all going to assume your brilliant line was not a joke.” << Like I said… even your poor grammar and punctuation is identical to jj. You're either his twin or just the same person. It's clear you've come here to troll rather than discuss VR.

            As already stated.. you also exhibit the same low IQ… unable to grasp sarcasm/facetious statements.

            Yes I'm brilliant flappy… I have the highest IQ of anyone within a 50 mile radius… again… another statement for you to take seriously because you're clearly able to detect sarcasm versus not.

            So from this point jj/jjjkkjjjkkjjjkjkkk your trolling is getting fed back to you without any major effort.

          • jkGamer

            yeah and thats what happens when an idiot gets behind a keyboard.
            you attack everyone and then run and hide.

          • Raphael

            jkGamer Raphael • 3 minutes ago
            yeah and thats what happens when an idiot gets behind a keyboard.
            you attack everyone and then run and hide.

          • JJ

            poor poor raphole… Doesn’t know where he belongs any more… just aimlessly wandering around like a lost and ugly puppy

          • Raphael

            JJ Raphael • 2 hours ago
            poor poor raphole… Doesn’t know where he belongs any more… just aimlessly wandering around like a lost and ugly puppy

          • null

            you took the bait, why?

          • JJ

            none of this would have happened if you wouldn’t have been trolling across multiple chats. regardless of me being here, you’d be getting flak for the things you’ve said. Which is exactly whats happening right now and you’re just accusing everyone of being me, which again was hilarious.
            I appreciate you taking the time to reflect though, that was needed.
            So this has nothing to do with me, just watch and see how if you post nice things and not troll, you won’t get troll responses.
            its that fucking simple, just try it for once

          • Raphael

            JJ, there seems to be some confusion here on your part. Yes I stepped back and took at a particular set of posts here over the past few months. First I looked at my posts, then I looked at your posts. I realised that your “trolling” was certainly applicable but rather to your posts. Yes I have engaged you (assisted) you in your trolling efforts (for which you seem ungrateful).

            I was truly saddened to see the scale of trolling taking place here and yes, you are largely to blame. As I said though, I share some of the responsibility since I continued to engage you even after I blocked your registered JJ account. You are a determined troll it has to be said.

            It also became clear that what you need most of all is attention… even when I blocked you and spent a day repeating your insult attempts, you were still determined to get a personalized response from me.

            So I figured I wouldn’t react in quite such a harsh way in future. I will allocate 10 minutes on a daily basis to chat with you and give your trolling an outlet. I think you will agree it’s a kind and generous offer.

            Best wishes.

            Raphole

          • JJ

            dude just grow up all ready. Ben specifically called you out, and i see you arguing with multiple people, when will you take the hint that you’re the troll. Everyone’s calling you a troll and you’re the only one who’s called me jj a troll.

          • jj

            he should go tell his therapist about it again….

          • jkGamer

            ? his therapist?

          • Raphael

            Look at the facts flappy… you come here on a “guest” account and post exactly the same shite as jj. It’s pretty easy to detect a troll… firstly they use whatever method they can to continue trolling. In this case jj immediately logged out of his other account and logged in as a guest after I blocked him. He then continued with the personal attacks and even used the “your mom is fat” generic teen cliche insult.

            The other clue is that you’re clearly not interested in any dialog other than escalation. So yes… minimally you’re a jj buddy and maximally it’s the same troll.

          • jkGamer

            or maximally you couldn’t be farther from the truth… but whatever its your shitty life you have to live.

          • Raphael

            jkGamer Raphael • 5 minutes ago
            or maximally you couldn’t be farther from the truth… but whatever its your shitty life you have to live.

        • CMoney

          “Yes cunt, that’s my solution and it’s clearly a brilliant one.”

          Only on a blog could someone say something like this and be serious

          • Raphael

            Aha. So you want me to get into an argument about how it wasn’t serious.

            Yawn.

  • Andrew McEvoy

    Shame they never made a campaign mode for this game. Im sure someone will come along with one like that eventually and make a shitoad of sales.

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  • Aeroflux

    I was hoping for something related to VR beyond past tense.

    TLDR: The guys who made a couple VR games a while back were bought out by another company that appears to have no affiliation with VR.

  • Peter K

    Hey guys, get your popcorn ready because the comment section is a complete warzone.

    • paconies155

      well whoever raphael is, he sure does like to argue and call people names….

      https://www.roadtovr.com/htc-opening-viveport-vr-app-store-oculus-rift-users/

      hes all over this post too just making a fool of himself

      • paconies155

        i mean jj isnt being nice either but, raphael seams to come out of the gate swinging at anybody who comments

        • Peter K

          Relax and enjoy mate

          • paconies155

            oh i am its so fucking funny :) have any spare popcorn?

          • Raphael

            I do hope you’re not asking for salty popcorn, because i hate that shit.

          • paconies155

            I wasn’t talking to you stop trying to troll people, jesus.

          • Raphael

            Anger management, flappy. Anger management, judas.

          • paconies155

            @benz145:disqus just called you out for trolling…. maybe you shouldn’t go straight to mocking people and calling them names? idk thats just my thoughts

          • jj

            theres no hope with this kid, save yourself don’t get involved

          • Raphael

            You enjoy the bickering dunt u flappy.

          • paconies155

            yeah i’m pretty sure you’re just begging to get banned at this point. so i’m just gona let you argue with other people until you do goodbye

          • Raphael

            I’m pretty sure you haven’t figured it out yet. I’m here for VR, happy to discuss VR but there are people posting on guest accounts who really prefer to fight. So really I don’t give a flying feckywanks about your opinion outside of VR.

            goodbye

          • paconies155

            when was i fighting you?
            there must be something wrong with you, because you just picked started arguing with a random person. you’re making it so nobody wants to come here and talk about VR and that sucks for everyone trying to have real conversations.

          • Raphael

            I don’t know you paconies and I’m not accusing you of starting anything. It seems to me you’ve simply become drawn into bickering that began with a certain person. It seemed you decided that I was to blame for that. I don’t come here to argue. I come here to keep up to date on VR and to discuss it.

            I actually blocked the person I’d been bickering with days ago and I told him in advance I would do so. He simply resumed the insults from a guest account. What I should have done was ignore because the net result of me engaging (in a ferocious manner) is that people then see me as the instigator.

            I don’t even like blocking people to be honest. Much better to be able to de-escalate or simply not take everything too seriously.

          • paconies155

            well you’re pretty bad at de-escalating situations. I dont think calling people flappy or referring to anger management is the best way to do that, instead i think thats trolling..

          • Raphael

            I am absolutely bloody terrible at de-escalating.

          • paconies155

            can you say one thing that isnt negative or mockery of other people? Do you really not have any social skills, i gave you multiple chances to amend the situation and have a conversation and you continued with mocking and name calling. GET A LIFE!

          • Raphael

            Ummm… all I did was agree with you that I am crap at de-escalating… how is that negative or mocking you?

          • Raphael

            At last, someone who gets it.

        • Sandy Wich

          This is the internet bud, the mentally ill capital of the world. These things happen every day. All you can do is stay out of it and let things be.

          To be fair I’ve watched both of them comment for quite some time and I don’t think things are going well for either of them. But that’s life. Be thankful you’re not so toxic and also be hopeful that they’ll figure things out.

        • Raphael

          What are you crapping on about flappy? Who do you think created the JJ accounts? hint… Could he be arguing with himself again?

          • paconies155

            what the fuck?

          • Raphael

            what the actual fuck?

      • Raphael

        Yes, that raphael sure is a nasty ass bitch! I think he’s declared war on guest accounts because he realises they’re mostly the same cunty bollocks troll.

        • paconies155

          we’ll i see how it starts now… jesus

          • Raphael

            morning worship… jesus

            P. S.

            Hint: Echo chamber… whatever you post focused on me and unrelated to VR is fed back to you in some way. Thus you are really engineering and sustaining the situation. Leads me to believe you have very little interest in VR.

          • paconies155

            what the fuck?!?! so you really are a troll i guess. that was pretty easy to figure out.

  • kool

    I wish eve was on ps plus for months at a time.

  • Vegeta785

    I been on disqus for 3 years now? 2? But I never knew what a guest account was XD

    • Raphael

      A guest account is a pain in the ass. On the one hand it allows more posts to be made from those who can’t be bothered to register/login. The downside is that you can’t block trouble-makers. If you block a troll they just continue trolling from a guest account. If R2VR switched-off disqus guest account option things would be considerably better.

      • Vegeta785

        Ah, I understand.

  • benz145

    @Orangeunderpants:disqus and the rest, we’ve gotten multiple complaints about the discussion here and elsewhere. If the toxicity level doesn’t come down going forward we’re going to have to start throwing out bans. Yes guests can be banned too.

    This is a place for discussion and respect. If you want to shout at each other, go ahead and trade email addresses and do so in private.

    • Raphael

      Hello Ben, I’m not going to argue with your warning. It’s perfectly understandable.
      Things have certainly spiraled out of control recently and while I have made some efforts to stop it, I could have done more. I actually blocked the person I’d had confrontations with but he resumed immediately from a guest account.

      I tried simply echoing his insult posts back to him for a day… I should have simply ignored.

      I come here for VR and I actually do have normal conversations focused on that subject. So from this point forward all bickering will be ignored/avoided.

      • paconies155

        “I do hope you’re not asking for salty popcorn, because i hate that shit.”
        “Anger management, flappy. Anger management, judas.”
        -Raphael

        i just joined and within an hour raphael had been teasing and sending me and others negative comments. If anybodys the issue its clearly him.

        • Raphael

          Yes paconies… that was after you made a declaration that you saw me as the cause of all the bickering.

          So my responses to you were an attempt to inject some humor into an unpleasant situation. Clearly that failed as you decided said humor was an attack on you.

          Did you even see a day’s worth of posting from the other person in which I warned him he would be blocked by me and after blocking… continued the insults from a guest account?

          So when you declare that one person is to blame, that to me is unfair and inaccurate.

          Also, I have responded to Ben in an HONEST way so why do you feel the need to push your personal agenda in an effort to get me banned? I don’t know you, have nothing personal against you and as I have said more than once… am happy to discuss VR.

          • paconies155

            yeah i also said the same towards jj, but then you went on to call me, him/her, and others names like cunt and flappy.

            its pretty obvious who the trouble maker is.

          • Raphael

            More than a week of personal attacks and it was frustrating that even blocking a person didn’t resolve. I also made some attempts to resolve the situation last week…Do you even know how this started? I posted a silly comment about oculus being focused on mobile VR for the next decade and that one comment brought a barrage of abuse from ONE PERSON. Am I going to deny responding with the same abuse? Absolutely not. But when you keep saying “it’s clear who the trouble-maker is”… You’re either unaware of that starting point or you simply don’t care.

            I have responded to Ben and I don’t want this to become another big argument now. If you want to continue with your view that I started it all then that’s fine. I just don’t intend to sit and argue about it all day.

          • JJ

            you were the first one to abuse people, I have documented proof.

            so keep on blabbing about how I (or someone else) abused you even, though multiple people have chimed in now to call you out for bullying.

          • JJ

            yeahhh that comment explains it all. I ask “Do you really have to include name calling on your first comment?”
            After that you go off on a tangent about sarcasm and people not getting your edgy humor. whats funny is literally everything you assumed past that point couldn’t have been more wrong. I own all vives products too, including the focus, so again you’re wrong on a ton of levels. Stop making assumptions, i think thats why you’re in this situation.

            You try to say i’m “hyper sensitive” for asking if you really have to start conversations by calling people names… yupp i sure am the hyper sensitive one here, and i guess all those other people you were arguing with must have been too. Everyone hyper and raphael is the only sane one….

            Plus its suspicious that the same people who upvoted hivemind are the same select few that upvote your stuff selectively. aside from lucifer, those names are probably YOUR fake accounts. Which would make sense because of how fast you were to accuse everyone else of having fake accounts.

            All ive done is rebuddle your trolling and name calling, i’ve never out of the blue talked shit to you or anybody. so I can write up responses to why you’re the troll for days, and it looks like thats where this is going. You keep on pushing the narrative that you’re the victim when you are the antagonist and i’ve pulled up evidence of that continuously for the past few days. this is easy, you made it easy by trolling in a place where things are permanent, you cannot hide from your past and I do not need to hide from mine.

            So please keep on trying to convince everyone you’re doing the right thing, its been great.

          • Raphael

            So I’m just gonna remind you of what Ben said: “Raphael and the rest, we’ve gotten multiple complaints about the discussion here and elsewhere.” <<< So who do you think "the rest" might be? It seems like you're determined to keep fighting even after a warning from the big boss. He also stated that guest accounts can be banned too… that's a hint. I don't post from guest accounts.

            So I suggest we stop bitching about who started it. You're not changing my opinion and I'm not changing yours. I come here for VR not for fighting.

          • paconies155

            dude tell it to jj, leave me out of it

      • benz145

        I should have simply ignored.

        • Stark Reality

          with mod’s like these >_>

  • VREvangelist

    What the hell is going on in this comments section? This site and those swearing and abusing others brings VR into disrepute!

    • paconies155

      just dont say anything negative towards Raphael or else you’ll get attacked :/
      i said one thing and he tried to use bullying to prove to me that he wasn’t a troll..?

      so now hes just getting ignored

  • nipple_pinchy

    Dumping a bunch of money into VR multiplayer-only games when the consumer market is fledgling at best. Smart. /s