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Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg: ‘Oculus Quest Completes Company’s First-Gen Lineup’

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Oct 15, 2018

Oculus Quest, the newly announced standalone 6DOF VR headset (ex-Project Santa Cruz), completely stole the show at this year’s Oculus Connect with the promise of offering some very Rift-like experiences in a mobile form-factor. There was a torrent of news surrounding the headset and its upcoming apps like SUPERHOT VR, but what seemed to fall through the cracks was the revelation that Oculus Quest marks the end of the company’s first-gen hardware.

“With Oculus Quest, we will complete our first generation of VR products,” Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said.

Oculus Quest is due to launch sometime in Spring 2019 at $400 for the 64 GB version, including a pair of optically-tracked controllers, also dubbed ‘Touch’ like the Rift’s controllers. Tracking is handled by on-board, head-mounted sensors, so there’s no need for a PC or external sensors.

Photo by Road to VR

At Connect, Zuckerberg outlined that the company will be pushing forward with the three hardware platforms—Oculus Go, Oculus Quest, and Oculus Rift—as definitive classes of devices that will eventually see new versions in the second generation.

“So from here we’re going to make big leaps in tech and content for the future generations for each of these products,” Zuckerberg continued. “We’re going to build each of these as platforms, so everything that you build for them today is going to work on future versions of these devices. This is all still early, but [Go, Quest, and Rift] is the basic road map.”

You can view the full day-one keynote here on YouTube.

Oculus Quest Hands-on and Tech Details

Notably, this means Oculus Go, the company’s standalone headset which has the same basic functionality of a Samsung Gear VR, likely won’t be subsumed by Quest, but rather continuing onward to fill the place of the company’s most affordable VR headset. Oculus CTO John Carmack has even outlined a few items on the company’s wishlist for Go’s second generation, further driving the point home that Go is here to stay.

While it’s simply too early to tell what’s in store for the second generation of Quest, Facebook revealed at the F8 dev conference a high-FOV varifocal prototype headset, dubbed Half Dome. Some of that tech, Oculus co-founder and Head of Rift Nate Mitchell says shouldn’t be expected in a product anytime soon though, although it certainly looks like a Rift 2.0 will be the company’s next product—whenever that is.

MW

PR talking. Basically he’s saying: we trying to make money, as much as we can, on old tech, and we have no new ideas for today. Little sad to hearing that from one of the biggest VR player… So Much for a ‘VR for masses’ right now. And HTC looks to be on the same page.
- impurekind
  
  No idea what you’re talking about.
  - MW
    
    Sorry. But i have no idea how to explain myself. Years passing by and biggest VR company says: we shouldn’t be expected anything new in a product anytime soon .
    You don’t understand that? Well… maybe it’s something wrong with you.
    - impurekind
      
      The Quest is new. And the Go is also pretty dang new too.
      
      And within probably a year or two we’ll almost certainly see new versions of the likes of Go and Rift.
      
      And they also showed off plenty of new developments in various areas of the tech during the keynotes, which will obviously be coming to future headsets, likely in the next couple years or so too.
      
      So, I still have no idea what you’re talking about.
      - Raphael
        
        It’s the “I can’t have gen 2 right now because I deserve it so I’m gonna say they’re holding it back to make money on old tech” << It's cliche rhetoric from a new generation who really don't understand VR in the same way as those who understand its history and were using it long before octopus rift was a thing.
      - MW
        
        It’s not a cliche. It’s the truth. Completely understandable approach. VR market is to small. We have better screens for ex. but we don’t have better HMD from biggest players. Why? It’s a bad investment.
      - Raphael
        
        In your head…a new higher res screen is developed by Samsung and you think oculus and htc should incorporate that immediately. Bypassing planning, research and development. In your head it’s a simple task to make a new hmd with high res screens. The reality is if a new HD screen comes this year, it will take several years to become a consumer hmd. A hmd isn’t a cellphone. It’s much more complex with moving parts, tracking, must be designed to fit on a range of heads.
        
        Oculus major focus has been on mobile VR and quest is their first internal tracking 6dof headset. However, their R&D has been working on future vr hardware including variable focus. You really need to grow up flappy and learn about the reality of making VR hardware. Pimax has taken a number of years to reach this stage and it’s not next gen. It’s a pair of high res screens with no foveated rendering, no auto variable focus, no vr controllers (will use valve hardware), no tracking and no wireless.
        
        You are one of many people who get hold of vr and understand nothing about its development or history. All you understand is mobile phone iteration timelines and think VR is no different. The speed of development since oculus DK1 has been collosal. Gen 2 isn’t being held back because they are lazy or want to sell gen 1 stock. VR development is tied to R&D. Science. Nothing else. You whining about oculus not doing their job isn’t going to accelerate R&D. I say this because there have been other whiners doing the same as you who actually told me they think their complaining will scare oculus and htc into releasing gen 2 much sooner.
    - NooYawker
      
      How many years is passing by? 2 years? Is that too long for you for brand new consumer tech for you? These products are the best they can be with existing graphic and mobile CPU tech.
      - dz11
        
        No, they are not the best they can be. The Quest has a two year old processor inside and the Go has an even older one inside. Pimax already does 200 degree FOV for a decent price so oculus are way behind them. Yes, oculus are giving us some old tech.
    - V Z
      
      years passing and there are still no flying cars. I was told not to expect one soon. All we get are small incremental improvement in cars that still drive on the ground. Big problem. Huge problem.
      
      You don’t understand that? Well… maybe it’s something wrong with you.
    - MosBen
      
      That’s really not what he said. They’re about to release the third product in their their first generation. They’re going to then work on the next generation of products, which will have new ideas and technologies. You know that they didn’t stop making Marvel movies after the first Avengers, right?
      - MW
        
        Just words. Meaning- don’t expect better hardware in next year’s. Period.
    - Gonzalo Novoa
      
      It’s barely 2 years since the Rift came out, it’s like expecting PS5 to come out 2 years after PS4, just not happening. I wouldn’t expect Rift until late 2020 being optimistic, 2021 more likely.
    - Jorge Gustavo
      
      The Rift CV1 was launched in 2016. We are in 2018. In two years they build a quite impressive ecosystem to support the development of the brand and Rift technology. I think that you are very anxious about a new generation.
  - dz11
    
    How can you pretend you don’t know what he’s talking about? Just look at the Oculus Rift and compare it to the Pimax 5k+ with its 200 degree FOV. Oculus also put a two year old processor inside the Quest. Not exactly cutting edge.
    - NooYawker
      
      The stand alone devices are made to be reasonably priced. The Pimax needs to be attached to a computer. And it’s 2 years after the release of the oculus. And it isn’t even at full production. People have been talking like the Pimax is this amazing device and it’s nothing but hype at this point. By the time it reaches full production it will be surpassed by something else.
      - dz11
        
        Oculus say it will be another two years before the successor to the Rift is released, so i don’t see where the competition to the Pimax is coming from at the moment. Maybe it’s coming from windows mixed reality, but they have been so quiet lately.
      - impurekind
        
        Again, that’s because you clearly only see the stuff Pimax is doing well as relevant, but you neglect to see the stuff that Oculus is doing well. The most likely outcome is it’s Pimax that won’t even sniff being competition for the Quest, as the quest will like sell multiples more units. And Oculus already has a successful low-end fully portable VR system and a successful higher-end PC-based VR system. So, from the perspective of a company trying to create a long-term successful VR business, which one actually seems like the smartest move right now. Oculus will create a successor to the Rift when its ready to, and, without doubt, there will be plenty stuff about it that leaps ahead of what Pimax is releasing in the very near future–much like the Pimax is leaps ahead of the now two-ish year old Rift. Nothing about this is complicated or confusing to me–I’m not sure why it’s so hard for you to get your head around.
      - dz11
        
        Of course the Quest will sell more but I was talking about tethered VR.
    - impurekind
      
      The Rift is around 2 years old at this point. Of course a brand new console, that still hasn’t even launched yet, is going to be more advanced. But look at the Quest next to Pimax: The Quest is fully wireless and self-contained and still costs less. That’s one area where Oculus is clearly ahead of Pimax–and the Quest is deliberately not adding in more advanced displays and stuff like that because it is a totally self contained system and they’re actually trying to save some power so the battery doesn’t run down in five mins and keep the cost down. The next Rift is the system you should compare to the Pimax if you want to talk about cutting edge tethered home VR systems, but that won’t be here for a year or two.
      - dz11
        
        The Quest is only 20% more powerful than the Oculus Go and costs double the price. You will only get simple mobile phone graphics on the Quest. Not really comparable to Pimax and PC.
      - impurekind
        
        And yet it is still the most advanced all-in-one, fully untethered, full 6DoF on both the headset and controllers VR headset out there.
      - dz11
        
        Yes, they have done well with developing new wireless headsets but they seem to have forgotten about the poor old Rift.
      - impurekind
        
        That’s just on the gen 2 road map, which will be here in a year or two. They now have three categories of headsets available as gen 1 versions, and, according to their own Oculus Connect opening presentations, from here they’re planning on releasing a next gen version of each going forward. To me that makes perfect and indeed smart sense as a business model.
- Andrew Jakobs
  
  It’s not ‘old tech’, it’s still relevant tech. Biggest problem for VR at this point is GPU power, it’s just not ready for the 4k per eye large FOV that a lot of you guys and girls as enthousiasts want. And certainly not at reasonable consumer prices. And don’t come with solutions as foveated rendering, as that still requires a lot of extra hardware (eye/gaze tracking) to work perfectly. And even PIMAX can’t get their wide FOV 4k per eye headset working properly, and what the current price is only the kickstarter price, consumerprices are propably a bit higher, so it’s not only Oculus, HTC that have problems (but then again, we don’t hear anything from them in regards to their progress, but you can bet your ass they also have their internal 4k per eye wide FOV prototype working). Also, whatever happened to the LG headset (lighthouse based), we haven’t heard anything about that one for a long time.
- Adderstone VR
  
  That’s not at all what he said…they gave a clear idea on what they’re working on. And at Connect, Abrash gave us a very clear insight at just how far development on the wish list for VR tech currently is. Yes he also gave us quite a good idea of how long he figures it’ll take for that tech to mature, but nowhere did anyone even remotely say “we have no new ideas”.
- Raphael
  
  They have plenty of cutting edge development for future gen. Just because it’s not “right now” is irrelevant. VR hardware clock isn’t governed by the impatient. It’s governed purely by science.
- Dave
  
  MW thats a little narrow minded. Clearly this PR was about one product and that was the Quest. Oculus clearly have some fantastic technology in the works but they are not ready to reveal just yet – maybe next year!
- V Z
  
  Did you expect them to say “don’t buy our current product because we are about to come up with something much better”? You really that naive? Did you happen to shop for a bridge, by the way?
- Bob
  
  Yep. Every single company involved with VR and AR don’t care about VR and AR. It’s all a scam and it’s all a con. Nobody gives a shit about nothing! Guess the only thing to look forward to is nothing!
impurekind

This is where things start to get exciting.
- V Z
  
  Where? I mean, the Quest is okay and undeniable useful in some limited circumstances. But what is exiting? It’s about as exciting as the new toilet brush I got yesterday. It’s shiny and still clean.
  - impurekind
    
    Where?
    
    Well, we have all the Oculus gen 1 devices out now, so anything new we get from here on out is almost certainly going to represent a proper generational jump in terms of the technology and capabilities of these headset and controllers, which means the next stuff we see from Oculus should be pretty dang impressive.
    
    And it’s not going to be long before we start to see some of that new stuff: 4K+ resolutions, headsets with around 200 degrees field of view, more powerful fully wireless headsets, cheaper and cheaper prices for gen 1 headsets, possible eye tracking and foviated rendering, etc.
    
    That’s exciting to me.
    - V Z
      
      I see what you mean. Your imagination of the future is exciting, right? Yes, in this case excitement would be dictated by your ability to fantasize. I mistakenly thought you were talking about the present.
      
      I’ll one up your fantasies though. Direct Neural Interface is right around the corner now that the first gen is released! Or a few corners.. maybe… All in gorgeous 120MP x2, which is supposedly number of rods and cones in retina. 360 degrees spherical view, because neural interface makes us no longer limited to human vision! With sexy times cyborg DLC! Yes! I see the excitement now!
      - MosBen
        
        I mean, come on, man. For people who have been hungry for VR tech to take some specific advancements at the top tier, it is exciting to be on the cusp of wrapping up the first generation. It’s not unreasonable to think that we’ll hear about the Vive 2 in some kind of medium term timetable, and the same goes for the Rift 2. The first generation has been good, but seeing this tech take that step into becoming a regularly updated piece of hardware, rather than a flash in the pan trend, is cool.
      - V Z
        
        I do understand your feelings of being excited about the future. But there is always something better in the future. Without a specific product announcement, what’s is there to be excited other than what we imagine the future is to be? Was there any doubt that Rift 2 would come at some point? I don’t think so. What changed now? Yes, we are a little closer to Rift 2, but aren’t we always a little closer to the future?
      - dz11
        
        He was talking a out the present. Have you never heard of the Pimax?
      - impurekind
        
        The Pimax as is great at what it does (high resolution and wide field of view). The Quest is also great at what it does (all-in-on totally wireless). And the Rift 2 will be great at what it does too (maybe all of those things for all we know). You’re confused about why you think Oculus is somehow behind or lacking or whatever. Show me another all-in-one completely wireless VR headset that’s more advanced than the Quest right now. . . . Oculus IS at the cutting-edge; it’s just focusing more on going fully wireless with the Quest than going 5K-8K and 200 degrees field of view. But you have literally no idea what they’re focus is going to be with something like the Rift 2 or when it’s going to be shown or launched or whatever.
      - dz11
        
        Actually we do have an idea when the rift 2 will be released and what their focus will be because Oculus already said it will take two(!!!) years to release it. So yes, they are way, way behind Pimax. But that’s not to say that they can’t catch up. By that time Pimax will have their next generation headsets though.
      - impurekind
        
        Well I guess we will see how that plays out.
      - V Z
        
        LOL what? What does an article about Oculus has to do with Pimax? Maybe he was talking about the next moon landing :/
      - NooYawker
        
        Did they release the Pimax 5K? Are people receiving them? The only time I read about Pimax is about delays.
      - dz11
        
        The Pimax headsets have started to be sent out to backers now and people have started to receive them. So they are now a big threat to oculus. When people experience the Pimax they will not want the rift. It is the next generation available now.
      - NooYawker
        
        They’re a threat to no one. No one knows who Pimax is, the previous products Pimax released were absolute garbage and built like crap. The Rift and Vive have a solid foundation and proven to work. The Pimax game a little more resolution and a little more POV. Not exactly a technical feat 2 years later.
      - dz11
        
        So all those reviews of the Pimax that say how much better it is than the rift and the vive pro are all fake reviews, are they? Just because it has hardly been covered on this website doesn’t mean it’s no good. Maybe you need to get out of the roadtovr bubble that you’re in.
      - NooYawker
        
        They’re good reviews But they’re all from magazines and professional reviewers. But almost none are from consumers. But here’s some from people who purchased their precious devices and it’s total crap.
        The fact you think it’s next gen is crazy. It’s an incremental improvement. Very few people have received what they paid for. It’s laughable you think it’s a threat.
      - impurekind
        
        To be fair to Pimax, going up to 4K resolution per eye and near-200 degrees field of view is a pretty great step forward. I can’t wait ’til Oculus gets that kind of stuff in its headsets too.
        
        But, to be clear, V Z is a moron who doesn’t seem to grasp that a device like the Quest has its own strengths too, like being the most advanced fully wireless VR headset to date that also has full 6DoF on both the headset and dual Touch controllers.
        
        He just doesn’t seem to grasp that there is actually quite a lot of cutting edge stuff going on in Quest and that it will definitely and justifiably appeal to a lot or people over something like the Pimax.
      - impurekind
        
        Unless those people want a fully wireless and untethered VR headset.
      - impurekind
        
        Yes, but you’re just being a complete and utter moronic tool, and I’m not.
      - V Z
        
        You are not a complete moronic tool? Ok, so you are INcomplete moronic tool, got it. What are you missing to make you complete? Brain? I’m sorry for your injury, but we are inclusive in this forum.
      - impurekind
        
        You’re at like a 13 year old’s level of wit here.
      - V Z
        
        To complex for you, right? Must be tough to live as a dummy? It’s okay, we are all friends, do tell us more about your life.
      - impurekind
        
        I know you are, but what I am? Your face!
      - V Z
        
        Show us where he touched you.
    - dz11
      
      We already have 200 degree FOV and 4k+ resolution with the Pimax. It’s quite embarrassing how far behind oculus are to the small Chinese company producing the Pimax.
      - Xron
        
        Hmz, and yet Pimax reviewers say that 5k+ hmd from them is better all rounder than 8k… + it has 120/150/170 fov options to choose from and the most used fob might be ~150 because at 170 you see distortion.
        I hope Pimax will force other companies to move quicker, but please don’t flame other companies before checking problems of your loved one.
      - dz11
        
        150 degrees FOV is a lot better than what oculus are offering. Overall, the Pimax 5k plus is next generation superior to the oculus rift.
      - Gonzalo Novoa
        
        Do you really think if Oculus were to release right now what they already have it wouldn’t be in every aspect way better than the Pimax? Pimax is newer, that’s it, Rift is first-gen, it came out 2+ years ago, you can’t compare those products right now, that doesn’t mean oculus are behind at all.
      - dz11
        
        Well HTC released the Vive Pro recently and it’s no where near as good as the Pimax. Oculus only have a prototype that does 140 degree FOV which they say they will release in two years time. So even if they could release now it would still be behind the Pimax with its 150 degree FOV.
      - impurekind
        
        Again, you’re comparing a brand new system, that hasn’t even launched yet, to a system that came out around two years ago. If you want to compare like for like then wait until they reveal the next Rift and we’ll see how far behind Oculus truly is compared to the competition–which I highly doubt they will be. I mean look at the Quest: That’s pretty much the most advanced all-in-on completely untethered consumer VR headset out there right now. I could ask why the Pimax is so outdated by being tethered–but then I’d be acting as ridiculously and cluelessly as you.
      - dz11
        
        Rift 2 has been cancelled. Only a lower cost version of the rift will now be made if unconfirmed reports are correct.
        
        So who is the clueless one now?
        
        I’ve been saying all along how embarrassing it was for oculus to be so far behind Pimax and it looks like oculus shared my concerns and cancelled rift 2. Maybe use your brain next time you accuse others of being clueless.
    - Gonzalo Novoa
      
      Agreed. Gen 2 is going to be amazing, I have no doubt about it. I can’t even begin to imagine what Gen 3 o 4 will be like.
David Herrington

Rift 2.0 may be the next VR related device released from Oculus but that doesn’t mean that it will be soon. Whatever Oculus releases next for their flagship Rift, the 2.0 update needs to be incredible so that you will only want it rather than anything else. I’m guessing this means that eye tracking will be a must and that wireless and display improvements will also be high on the list. This means that all those improvements have to work well and, most importantly, need to work well TOGETHER. As we found out with the Pimax, trying to be first out to market may show problems in the design you haven’t had enough time to quality control, like refresh rate or backlight issues.

I expect that the next Rift will be another 1-2 years away from now, so don’t expect much word on updates until Holiday 2019.
- MosBen
  
  Based on their track record, Oculus isn’t going to release more than one product in a year. Next year is all about the Quest. They’ll release in the Spring and then have bundles by Holidays 2019. My guess is that the Rift 2 will be after that, in 2020. I don’t know where they go from there, as making the Go 2 incorporate some of the Quest’s hardware design would kind of make the Quest redundant, but I don’t think that they’ll be ready to release the Quest 2 that soon either.
  - Doctor Bambi
    
    Part of Go’s appeal is its simplicity. I could see them keeping the 3DOF feature set, and focusing instead on improving headset form factor and extending battery life.
    - MosBen
      
      Yeah, maybe. 3DOF is so limiting in terms of what you can do, but at least for the near term it probably makes sense.
  - TDUBS
    
    Its not happening in 2020. If you watch OC5 Abrash kept saying that things were 4 years away. I’m betting for a Winter 2021, or Spring 2022 release. Oculus quest is meant to keep VR afloat for the next 2-3 years. Oculus is not releasing until their headset is a gamechanger. They really need to get the next version right. They need to go more mainstream with their next version.
    - MosBen
      
      Hmm, interesting. And after reading the new article about Abrash’s talk, I think that you’re probably right. I wouldn’t have thought that they’d hold off for that long, but it did sound like that what he was saying. So maybe the Quest comes out in 2019, nothing new released in 2020, new Go 2 in 2021, and then Rift 2 in 2022? Or maybe swap the Go 2 and Rift 2?
Dave

Come-on Road to VR, you’re releasing this article now. It’s just fluff filler which adds nothing new. It’s also way too late. What was the point of this article?

People who look on here are going to know this stuff inside out, and unless you can deliver something a little more news worthy, inovotive, polished and closer to the time then it just looks like an after thought.
- V Z
  
  You must be new here :/
impurekind

For the record, I utterly hate Home 2.0 and dash. Wish we could just go back to the original Home for the most part.
Trenix

Remember the days where products had only one generation every few years, not just upgrades? All these new VR headsets just provide minor improvements. You may fool most impulsive buyers, but not me. Still not buying. So many flaws with VR, it’s honestly not worth the experience, which says a lot.
- Bryan Ischo
  
  You’re funny. I am fairly certain that with your entitled attitude you have no idea what goes into actually creating cutting edge technology because you’ve never actually created anything of value yourself. These technologies are difficult and expensive to invent, improve, and manufacture, so they take time and when they arrive they cost real money because real money went into making them.
  
  *Plenty* of people have had really great and worthwhile experiences with the existing tech and are looking forward to even better tech in the future. I’m one of them.
  - Trenix
    
    Child, I’ll assist you with some feedback so you can make better responses.
    1) Don’t use the word entitled if you’re not sure what it means or how it’s used, it makes you look like an idiot.
    2) Argument from authority, is commonly known fallacy. I don’t need to be an inventor or create anything to have a reasonable argument.
    3) Don’t assume I haven’t created or designed anything of value when you have no idea of who I even am.
    4) There have been many technological advancement in VR, but they rather make their money off of stupid impulsive buyers such as yourself. I’ve played a majority of the mainstream VR headsets and none of them are far different from each other and are equally poorly designed. Sometimes the slight changes aren’t worth the value or simply don’t improve much of anything.
    5) I agree that VR is a great experience, but you’re fooling yourself if with all the issues, it’s even worth the price.
    
    VR is still a sham, wont be mainstream anytime soon because developers are too busy finding ways to penny pinch customers, instead of offering a quality product that people would be more than willing to pay extra for. But keep on brown nosing as you play by yourself.
    - Devin C
      
      You’re offended at being called out for sounding entilted but call the person a child? Perhaps a bit of courtesy would make them more inclined to hear your position. VR has been slow to develop into the true beast we are hoping for and it will very likely take several more years before it does but the existing tech does offer some amazing experiences that are hampered more by limited content than anything else. Things like the go and quest are certainly cash grabs to an extent but they reach a larger market and gain revenue for R&D of the CV2 and movement solutions which is exactly what we want. I hardly feel this justifies calling the developers parasites.
      - Trenix
        
        You and your friend need a dictionary and read what entitled means and how it works.
    - MosBen
      
      The idea that there have been some great advancements in VR that are being held back so they can make money off impulsive buyers is just silly. Not many people have purchased VR headsets compared to consumers at-large. If there was some great VR tech that was fully developed and could be put into a product at a reasonable price, somebody would have done so. Developing and advancing technology is difficult, expensive, and often slow. HMDs will get better over time, but in increments.
      
      Whether VR is currently worth the cost depends on how much you have to spend. If you get one for free, man, what a value! If you already have a gaming PC and pick up a Rift for $400, you very well may get your investment out of it if you enjoy it. I’ve certainly gotten my money’s worth out of my Rift over the last year and a half. Or maybe someone would have to buy/build a gaming PC AND buy a Rift. If they’re not into gaming and don’t use the Rift much, then it wasn’t worth the price.
      
      But your conspiracy about developers delaying the widespread adoption of VR in exchange for penny pinching (I think you mean nickel and diming, but whatever), is just ridiculous.
      - Trenix
        
        Boy… you don’t know much about technology, business, or capitalism.
      - MosBen
        
        Are you sure? Because it seems like you’re just yet another internet blowhard that is all misplaced anger and nonsense arguments. But sure, go ahead and tell everyone what advancements in VR tech are ready for primetime but are being held back due to hardware developers wanting to rip off impulsive consumers. Also go ahead and explain why it hasn’t been reported anywhere or why competitors like Pimax, who have every incentive to make products that are superior to the more well known HMD makers, haven’t touted this new technology.
      - Trenix
        
        My degree in business with over a 4.0 GPA suggests I probably know way more than you. But go ahead, entertain me. Oh any don’t take this as an argument of authority, but rather it’s about exposing an idiot who acts like he knows about technology, business, or capitalism when he knows very little to almost nothing about it. Not even basics. To think, when google is so readily available, people are still so ignorant. Do some research and get back to me.
      - MosBen
        
        So, you say that you don’t want to make an argument from authority, but your entire schtick has been making assertions that the industry is essentially sitting on its hands instead of releasing technology that is essentially consumer-ready, all because they want to bilk “impulsive consumers”. You haven’t done anything to back it up other than to cite your 4.0 credentials from “business school”, which I’m sure is a famous school, even if I haven’t heard of it. And then you refer to “technology, business, or capitalism”, but make no reference or argument to what information about those subjects supports your position.
        
        You’re doing a classic appeal to authority, and you haven’t even established your authority on the subject. I don’t think that it’s impossible that you’re right about this, but you haven’t even begun to support the conspiracy theory masquerading as a point.
      - Trenix
        
        You repeated yourself multiple times and the conclusion is all the same. Do some research. If you know nothing about business, capitalism, or anything, don’t talk about it. Really, it’s that simple.
      - MosBen
        
        How many ways can you literally say nothing? Seriously, say one thing about business, capitalism, or anything that remotely supports your assertion that there’s some sort of conspiracy to bilk customers.
      - Trenix
        
        Are you talking to yourself?
      - MosBen
        
        Given your lack of any meaningful insight or contribution, it sure seems that way. But tell us again how you understand capitalism. Just make sure to not say anything about capitalism.
      - Trenix
        
        Capitalism.
      - MosBen
        
        That’s exactly the kind of insight that I expect from you.
      - Trenix
        
        Yeah I have plenty of insight about capitalism, that’s for sure.
    - Bryan Ischo
      
      I don’t need to know who you are. I know everything I need to know about you from your ridiculous posts.
    - Jorge Gustavo
      
      I can enjoy VR as its right now. Clearly you can’t. But it’s just your opinion, not mine. Despite all your talk, it’s just a opinion.
      - Trenix
        
        Welcome to the world of opinion. You new?
- gothicvillas
  
  The right time is always now. It’s now or never.
- V Z
  
  What if… no one tries to fool you? and the product is simply not for you?
  You argument sounds like if I said that camel saddle manufacturers won’t fool me and make me buy their saddle, when in reality I don’t have a camel and not planning to ever own one. Camel riding is not worth the experience!
  
  Do you go complaining about every product that you don’t enjoy using?
  
  Brb, going to complain on car forums and tell them that cars are crap because they are not flying.
  - Trenix
    
    What a weird straw man argument.
- MosBen
  
  Not everyone falls in love with modern VR when they try it, but the vast majority of people that I demo it for are amazed at the quality that they can provide. The reason they aren’t going out and buying them is that the experience that they like requires a gaming PC that they don’t own. At some point, and I think the Quest is that point, the important parts of the experience that they like will be in a single, affordable unit that they can buy. Of course, others will still hold out.
- Gonzalo Novoa
  
  It’s not worth the experience what? VR? I couldn’t disagree more, VR is amazing right now, it will be even more incredible in a couple of years.
  - Trenix
    
    It’s as amazing as having smudged glasses.
MosBen

It makes sense that Oculus will go forward with three tiers of products, but I think that that’s probably more for pricing than anything else. The Go will proceed in some form, but I bet that it basically ends up being an adaptation of the last generation’s Quest, technology-wise, probably with mostly ergonomic improvements.
CURTROCK

I wonder if this signifies the beginning of a 3 year cycle. Go, this year. Quest, next year. Rift, year after next. 1 generational upgrade for each product, every 3 years….Yet, a new Oculus product each year. They did say that the upgrade cycle would land somewhere between cellphones & consoles.
Firestorm185

So I haven’t asked yet… but are they not making Gear VRs anymore? I haven’t heard whether or not Oculus has stoppped updating/supporting the Gear or not with all of these new devices out.
- airball
  
  Correct, there are no more Gear VR headsets planned. The partnership was a temporary solution while they got their feet off the ground with their own hardware. The current Gear VRs will continue to work with the Oculus store for now.
PJ

Erm, this is great and all, but what about an official wireless rift adapter?
WyrdestGeek

Well at least the pitch is more believable, and down to Earth than Magic Leap.

Mostly I’m just hoping Quest takes off.
Raphael

I’m not gonna forgive you. You represent the very shallow end of VR where kiddies scream and shout because they can’t have that toy right now. You’re an example of the negative side of VR heading towards mainstream. Back in 2006 when I got my first VR headset…the image quality was so bad it could only play a couple of games with barely recognisable imagery. The image wasn’t lifesize…it was like sitting at the back of a small movie theater. However… the people who bought VR back then were real enthusiasts who understood the limitations.

Here we are years later with much clearer vr imagery with true blacks, head tracking, larger FOV and a percentage of new buyers are oblivious to the progress and what came before. I’ve read comments from people with your complaining view before and they invariably feel they are being cheated and that the real vr is out there but being denied them.

You don’t have the insight or awareness to understand that VR hardware release is governed by science and nothing else. So you can whine all you want. Gen 2 will emerge at a rate dictated by R&D plus design and manufacture.
dz11

By the time the Quest is released, the processor inside will be two and a half years old! Come on oculus, you bunch of penny pinchers. You can do better than that for the price you are charging for it.
timmyage4

You guys are pretty sad arguing like a bunch of five year olds. No most of society doesn’t take VR seriously.
- Trenix
  
  Your type like a five year old.
  - dz11
    
    You mean he types like a 4 year old.
  - JesuSaveSouls
    
    So now I see you have a long track record of complaining,insulting and harassing people on the discussions with a bully type attack.Please repent and turn to Jesus!
opal

Na chuj ten Go. Lepiej dołożyć i kupić bardziej zaawansowanego questa. No chyba, że Go będą chcieli wypuścić w jakiejś mega dobre cenie typu 50$
oompah

First Gen Box on ur Face
experience.
Wait for the waveguide ones u avatars
(& Pandora ray traced , live a new life)
Minjae Sheen

All you geeks do not realize most mundane folks have under powered PC. GTX 1050 would be somewhat higher for most. Absolute majority will not pay for 2080ti required to run Pimax FOV. Bigger screen and bigger lens for better FOV would not be that hard to launch but it will take compute chip advances first. Forveated rendering sounds promising in theory but is it really possible to render quickly enough to follow the eye movement?