HTC/Valve Vive

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The HTC Vive became available for pre-order at the end of February for $800. The unit which, unlike the Oculus Rift, currently comes with VR motion controllers included, is due to ship at the beginning of April, just a few days after the Rift. The Vive is currently backordered to May.

Emphasis on Room-scale VR

Valve has given us a pretty good indication thus far of what we’ll see from them and the Vive at GDC 2016. Firstly, the company will be hosting 36 SteamVR games at their booth. Here’s the full list:

Developer Title
Owlchemy Labs Job Simulator: The 2050 Archives
Northway Games & Radial Games Fantastic Contraption
Google Tilt Brush
Epic Unreal Editor
Lionsgate & Starbreeze John Wick: The Impossible Task
Stress Level Zero Hover Junkers
Cloudhead Games The Gallery
Neat Corporation Budget Cuts
Indimo Labs Vanishing Realms
VRUnicorns #SelfieTennis
VIRZOOM Virzoom
Futuretown.io Cloudlands Minigolf
I-Illusions Space Pirate Trainer
Vertigo Games Arizona Sunshine
Phosphor Games Brookhaven
Alientrap Modbox
Solfar Everest
Aldin Dynamics Waltz of the Wizard
Survios Raw Data
Dylan Fitterer Audioshield
Penrose Studios The Rose and I
InnerspaceVR La Peri
Triangular Pixels Unseen Diplomacy
Schell Games Water Bears
Phaserlock Final Approach
Innervision VR Thunderbird
Other Ocean GiantCop
Lightning Rock Marble Mountain
WaveVR TheWave
Frontier Development Elite: Dangerous
Cartoon Network Games & Turbo Button Adventure Time
Envelop E.V.E.
AltVR Altspace
Minority Media Time Machine
Giant Army Universe Sandbox ²
Cherrypop Games Pool Nation

The vast majority are room-scale titles, though HTC and Valve maintain that the Vive works well for seated VR as well (as we’ve tried on a few occasions).

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We’ll be going hands-on with a number of these Vive titles throughout the week.

New VR Content from Valve

Valve's Aperture Science HTC Vive Demo featured characters from the Portal universe
Valve’s ‘Aperture Science Robot Repair’ demo gives players a glimpse into the world of ‘Portal’

Valve will also be showing off two new pieces of its own never-before-seen content.

The first is The Lab which the company says is a “compilation of new VR experiments,” which is set in the Portal universe. We expect this to be linked to the much-loved Aperture Science Robot Repair experience which the company debuted back when the Vive was first revealed during GDC 2015.

The second new thing we’ll see from Valve at GDC 2016 is the SteamVR Desktop Theater Mode (heretofore: SDTM) which the company today confirmed was in beta. SDTM will allow VR users to play non-VR games inside of a virtual reality home-theater space.

Leveraging Steam

Look for Valve to leverage the established Steam platform as a major selling point for the HTC Vive. For many non-VR PC gamers, Steam is the platform of choice, and already houses the majority of users’ game library and online friends.

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Valve has taken a first stab at translating the Steam experience into a ‘Shell’ interface which is an in-VR hub that provides access to SteamVR titles and the usual Steam features like the store, friends, and a web browser. SteamVR’s interface is still early and we hope to see big usability improvements as time goes on.

Although playing existing games on a virtual screen isn’t the most exciting use-case for VR, the new SteamVR Desktop Theater Mode will likely prove a salient bullet-point for Steam gamers who are on the fence about trying the new-fangled technology. Knowing that they can at least do something with their non-VR games means they don’t have to feel like they’re dropping $800 on a product that is wasted on the investment they’ve already put into their game library.

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And after all that… this is only be the tip of the iceberg for VR at GDC 2016. We’re on the ground all week to bring you the latest. Stay tuned.
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Ben Lang
Ben is the world's most senior professional analyst solely dedicated to the XR industry, having founded Road to VR in 2011—a year before the Oculus Kickstarter sparked a resurgence that led to the modern XR landscape. He has authored more than 3,000 articles chronicling the evolution of the XR industry over more than a decade. With that unique perspective, Ben has been consistently recognized as one of the most influential voices in XR, giving keynotes and joining panel and podcast discussions at key industry events. He is a self-described "journalist and analyst, not evangelist."
  • Simon Wood

    Regarding PSVR: The bundled/supported games will be the biggest motivation to buy. For me PS4 + PSVR + GT (with VR support) under $1000 would be mighty tempting.

  • CURTROCK

    A hella-good week for VR coming up! I’ll be keeping my browser pointed to R2VR for all da 411…. bring it!

  • DiGiCT Ltd

    Currently absolute winner is HTC vive for me as a developer.
    Rift and Samsung gear are ok but not that good, especially Gear you still stuck on an android OS which have only GL shaders and no directX support.
    Sony playstation no idea yet, but it runs on AMD hardware that also says enough….

    • The Sir

      It seems odd to mention wanting DirectX as a developer, the future is the Vulkan API (glNext), surely as a developer you are excited about this?

      Your remark about AMD hardware is an odd thing to say as a developer, considering compute cores are likely the future. Are you not excited about this also?

      PSVR will no doubt be the sales driver for VR, surely as a developer you are excited at the prospect of taking what is a niche market and making it as mainstream as possible (even if it will remain only a subset of all users)?

      • DougP

        Re: “AMD hardware is an odd thing to say as a developer, considering compute cores”
        I think you’re reading too much into what he wrote.
        Going from AMD to “compute cores” when he could be referring to video cards.

        • DiGiCT Ltd

          Exactly DoughP, Vulkan is still under development and cant do everything yet, also there are not much benches out yet for DirectX12 as most still run on DX11 or earlier.
          I refer to AMD as i been in there since their history, their major part was the time they got their athlon CPU launched for desktop computers, before they had their K series which where incompatible as hell in CPU instructions.
          Another thing which still exist with AMD is power consumption and life expectation time, heat is always a killer for electronic equipment, it reduces lifetime.
          Still AMD is cheap it also can perform well, but reliability is simply not there. Not sure at the end it will still be cheaper though, all depends on how long it runs before you need to replace it again.
          AMD also is ATI on graphic cards, just same story.
          It’s just about reliability, not cost or performance, as a little slower and longer life time matter more for me.

          • DougP

            It’s funny that similar to “console wars” or “PC vs Mac”, in the PC world there’s a LOT of fanboyism when it comes to “green/red” team.
            Personally, I don’t get nor go for any of that.
            I simply want the best, most compatible, for my money.
            Side note:
            I’ll also admit that when “all things are [near] equal” I’d actually choose the “under dog” to promote competition. As well I’ve chosen components based on manufacturers who were being anti-competitive/monopolistic.
            For example: I’m a big-time AMD supported, heck (I’m old!) even pre-AMD days I was supporting alternate (non-“Wintel”) CPUs. In more modern times, nearly all of my PC chips have been AMD, except for laptops where I had less choice in the past, and GPUs- mostly NVidia due to driver support & often better performance.
            [ Again, I’m an old-timer & used to work in high-end graphics, “true color” in PC days when Mac was still black&white. ANd 3DFx’s Voodoo isn’t relevant ]

            My ~10yr old quad-core AMD w/8Gb mem was holding up nicely (upgrade GPU years back to GTX607 OC).
            My new VR rig – CPU & GPU:
            Intel 5930K – overclocking (liquid cool) to 4.5+
            32Gb – 2666Mhz “Vengeance” mem (‘sposed easily clock @ 3ghz)
            2x SLI – 980Ti, 6Gb Extreme Amp!(Zotac)
            Only mentioning my hardware choices, to see what your thoughts are on this.
            My thinking was – about best bangbuck on GPUs.
            6core(12thread) CPU.
            So hoping/expecting that w/DX12 & new game engines, future utilizing more cores & compute coming back to being more important ( as writing more to GPU, cpu can become more of bottleneck ).

            Lastly – went 5930K vs 5820K…not for the clock/OC but for the PCI lanes.
            Realized with 2x SLI’d GPUs (16x * 2=32) & M.2 (4x) I’d not have enough lanes with 5820 or Skylake.
            Truth be told, as much as I’ve historically supported/owned AMD, I was concerned about heat (power consumption) & reliability (OC to within very safe/conservative range).
            Zotac’s are already stock OC’d so I’ll probably leave them at that.

            Also chose GPUs I did, as I’ll be driving a 4K monitor & projector & want 60FPS.

            Anyhow…sorry for the ramble, but just getting my parts in & very excited about building up the new rig.

            P.S. MANY years ago I used to write games. Was s/w developer for years, as well as 3D renderer/animator. So I’m excited about getting back into some 3D dev, if only for playing around *inside* the models using the Vive in room-scale. Sketchup, Unity, Unreal – “working” inside your model just sounds amazing to me.
            Exciting days ahead for VR!

          • DiGiCT Ltd

            Same for me DoughP, also old guy already in it before even PC’s existed, funny yeah the 3dfx voodoo you mentioned, bouhgt out by NVidia.
            Similar stuff as you did i did too in the past, render servers, 3d design etc etc.
            I can clearly understand what you are trying to say, and on most points i can agree.
            The thing now is just that i use it for my business and not as end user , as all need to be planned on investment reliability is important, as financial you need to write equipment off within 3 years to play it safe as a business.
            An other thing not mentioned but will not be used for end users but in development we use it are NVidia design cards in the Quadro line, and design desktops using 2-4 Xeon CPU boards out performing all the stuff endusers use in their pc rig.
            There is better stuff to get but not cheap, it is more for high end development, so in general the battle is not there on high end usage, only on consumer equipment.

    • AuxPlumes

      Hello biased “Game Developper”, what games are you working on ? If you want to sell your game to the maximum of players, I suggest you to open your mind and aknowledge that people usually don’t have a lot of place to fool around with their VR HMDs. This is not a mature VR market, this is only the beginning, and you’ll have to stick with that.

      • DiGiCT Ltd

        We are not just developing games for at home only, think about a new kinda arcade hall, more i can’t tell about it, as for the full potential of VR you are right ppl dont have the place for it in their home, so our solution would be a kinda arcade place where people can just enjoy it.

        • yag

          VR arcade is promising but when will the hardware be ready ? We need very robust headsets, controllers and stuff. Is there a company going into that ?

  • Sky Masterson

    The best thing about the poor bastards that impulsively ordered the rift is how they adamantly insist that it will support room scale.

    Palmer indicated it is “possible” for the Rift to emulate the Vive’s room scale. Possible meaning – we can’t do it now, had no plans to, but we underestimated the competition so we’re just making this shit up as we go along.

    I am a happy owner of HTC stock. Look at dat puppy go!!! Sure paid for my Vive… Many times over. Thank you Palmer for f’ing up your product and letting me buy the leading hardware developer for less than FB paid for your dumb-ass.

    All we need now is one big article in WSJ about HTC’s skyrocketing share price and how Oculus completely screwed the pooch and all of a sudden room scale is going to have a lot of developers.

    • aceofspadesfg

      Man I just realised I should have invested my money in HTC, I would have gotten a MASSIVE return if I had.

    • There is no question whether Oculus will support room scale. It will. It does. Many people have tried it. That’s what Crescent Bay was about. The only thing that remains to be seen is whether experiences created for room-scale Vive will be immediately available to Rift users through Steam without the need for a bunch of extra code. You’ve misconstrued Luckey Palmers’ comments.

      • DougP

        Re: “There is no question whether”
        The important question is which is better.
        At this point is seems near certain that the Vive’s is.
        Coverage of the entire room from all angles with information at the speed of light (emitters) w/the Vive….vs constellation sensor/camera system, issues with occlusion/losing tracking/lag.
        Developers have already commented on this.
        Sure, as an after-thought, Facebook’s gonna shoe-horn in a bit a room-scale type work, but the Vive will blow it away in performance & scalability.

        How many of the freaking stupid constellation camera/sensors are you gonna have to put around your room to get even the same coverage? The Rift is already USB cable hell compared to Vive’s 1-usb cord.

        Oculus missed the boat on this one, after getting in bed w/Facebook & whatever weird backend deal with Microsoft got in the way.

        Also….
        Re: “misconstrued Luckey Palmers’ comments”
        What’s NOT miscontruing Luckey (Luckey’s tale?) was when he used to be honest, mostly pre-Facebook sellout, and told people – “traditional controllers are crap for VR”. Facebook comes along, some weird Microsoft backend deal is made & voila – “VR is all about an old xbox controller!” ( you can’t see/track/etc & lack immersion )

        • He still feels the same way :)

        • It’s a matter of degrees. All accounts have Oculus’ room scale solution working very well. I can’t imagine anyone’s living room or den needing more than 2 cameras for coverage. Lighthouse’s true advantage is in large scale applications.

          I think their angle with the Xbox controller is about making casuals feel comfortable starting out, and encouraging developers to provide sit down experiences for beginners and those who lack 200sq ft of free space. On the flip side, their forthcoming Touch controllers have received nothing but acclaim.

          I really like both companies and hope they can together help create a healthy PC ecosystem. Steam certainly seems aimed at this collaboration. I see no need to bash one or the other, and no evidence that they don’t both present formidable experiences.

          • DougP

            Re: “those who lack 200sq ft of free space.”
            Keep in mind, the Vive works just fine as “sitting only”. Actually better, as out-of-the-box it can track 360-degree (think “swivel chair”) whereas the Rift will lose tracking & have occlusion w/using single camera/sensor.
            Also – the target *minimum* is “about the size of 2x yoga mats”.
            I honestly can’t imagine ANYONE living in a reasonable home/apartment NOT being able to clear that much space for “room scale”. Slide a coffee table or piece of furniture 1m away from an open space & you have it.

            Re: “hope they can together help create a healthy PC ecosystem”
            I’m worried about a healthy PC ecosystem with what Facebook’s been doing:
            1) paying for *exclusives*
            2) concerns of forcing you into “Oculus home” like they’re done w/GearVR (hate how it locks me out of Google Play)
            3) no support motion tracking in the package
            This last one is very problematic.
            It’ll hold back developers who want to create the most immersive experiences (your hands/arms “inside VR”, not feeling like you’re just watching a 360-degree monitor, but *prescene* within the scene!).
            So instead of ALL developers who want to jump on VR being able to target motion controllers (where sitting/standing or seated), they’ll lose a huge potential market share.
            It will hobble & fragment (& adversely affect!) devs wanting to support the Rift:
            a) lowest common denominator – seated & xbox contoller
            b) if write for their motion controllers (whenever they launch) can only sell to some small fragment of Rift users

            I just think that Facebook made some very bad decisions & it’s going to adversely affect the VR marketplace near-term.
            A lot of those decision probably stem from wanting to partner with MS & considering Valve & Steam their competition. Instead of playing along nicely with some standards for VR they’re gonna fight to take control from Valve’s Steam distribution system – sell through Oculus home or Windows Marketplace. That’s what this *battle* is really going to be able.

            And…again, like MS/Sony – Facebook’s already doing bad things with paying for exclusive titles, trying to “buy the market”.

          • The beginner Rift package supports 360 seated experiences. The back of the headset supplies information for the single camera.

            There is a significant problem with trying to provide experiences for both the minimum “2 yoga mats” recommendation in addition to the ideal, largely unreachable 15ft x 15ft spec. Kinetic has demonstrated this well. Either way, both experiences will be available to Rift users for a similar cost.

            I too find Oculus Home to be a bit of a constraint on Android; I just wish I could access a VR representation of my desktop or at least Cardboard somehow through Home. As long as Valve and Oculus continue to play nice on the majority of titles, I don’t see much a a problem on PC. Exclusives have always existed on consoles to little effect.

          • DougP

            Re: “The beginner Rift package supports 360 seated experiences.”
            What I meant by this was emphasizing that the beginner Rift only comes with a single camera/sensor.
            So if you’re using motion controllers ( or anything other add-on being tracked ) the front camera/sensor loses *sight* of it.
            Quite a few devs have complained about occlusion issues, so it seems that at least 1 additional camera/sensor will be required.

            Again – my preference is that they just include the fully functional system out-the-box, so that ALL games can support it.
            Devs won’t have to worry or limit themselves ( design choices ) developing for seated, mostly front facing, and a traditional xbox controller.
            I mean that Vive only costs $200 more & it comes with 2x lighthouse emitters, 2x motion controllers & still managed to include a front-facing camera. Another feature that I think people will wish they had is the camera – even seated, say taking a drink/eating, locating a peripheral,etc.

            Anyhow… it’s going to be an interesting year ahead.
            Very excited my Vive’s arriving in a few weeks!
            [ Note: I’m a “lucky one” & actually building/dedicating a room in my basement to VR. Putting a wall-bed in it as guest room, but will otherwise has ~15’x11′ for maximum “room scale” – for games that ‘scale up’ fully it’ll be interesting to see how that plays ]

    • bxrdj

      another genius on board …

  • VR Geek

    It is going to be a very interesting week for sure. I am certainly getting the feeling that Oculus may be in a bit of trouble here, but hoping not as I want to see all 3 deliver a solid experience and make VR happen once and for all. Let the games begin!

  • GabyS

    I wait for good news from GDC… Meanwile i show you my personal top vr headset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMTS7F5ob8

  • Pistol Pete

    HTC Vive is winning for me as a consumer.