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Quest 3 Features Confirmed in First Hands-on

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May 29, 2023

It seems Meta is looking to stoke some hype for its next Quest headset just days before Apple is slated to unveil its own, as Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman released Quest 3’s first hands-on, confirming a number of features from previous leaks in the process.

Gurman detailed a number of features in his hands-on with the upcoming mixed reality headset, saying that Quest 3 feels lighter and thinner than the Quest 2, featuring a stronger strap with fabric sides.

Like we’ve seen in previous renders, Quest 3 is said to feature three vertical “pill-shaped sensor areas” on the front of the device. On the left and right are color video pass-through sensors and standard cameras, while a depth sensor is placed in the middle, which is used for environment meshing and automatic identification of surrounding walls.

Tracking cameras are found on both left and right bottom sides of the device, departing from Quest 2’s four-sensor array placed on each corner of the headset. Sounds pretty similar to the image featured in a previous leak from Bradely Lynch.

Image courtesy Bradley Lynch

Quest 3 is said to come with a physical interpupillary distance (IPD) adjustment wheel next to the volume rocker which will allow users to dial in a finer IPD measurement. As a departure from its Quest Pro-esque feature set, Quest 3 is said to lack face and eye-tracking, which means none of the lauded ‘social presence’ features or foveated rendering.

Notably, Gurman says the actual clarity and VR displays within the Quest 3 feel “similar to those in the Quest 2 — despite the resolution being rumored to be slightly higher.” It seems Quest 3’s claim to fame will be its color mixed reality passthrough and faster performance thanks to a second-generation Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2.

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“[V]ideo pass-through on the Quest 3 presented colors more accurately and offered an almost lifelike rendering of the real world. I was even able to use my phone while wearing the headset, something that often feels impossible on a Quest 2,” Gurman says.

There’s no mention of optics, or whether it will indeed use pancake lenses like Quest Pro or a Fresnel lens like Quest 2.

From Gurman’s description, it seems Touch controllers aren’t getting the Pro-level design either, as they appear to be optically tracked by the headset via IR markers à la Quest 2. It’s said to lack both Quest Pro’s embedded controller sensors and Quest 2’s hoop-style tracking design, which could be interesting.

Pricing for the Quest 3 isn’t finalized, however it’s expected to be higher than the Quest 2 at around $500. Meta is also expected to concurrently offer Quest 2, making for the widest headset lineup the company has ever offered at one time.

Gurman says Meta is set to target the cheaper headset segment while Apple targets the upscale market with its reported $3,000 mixed reality device. While Apple’s headset is expected to make its debut on June 5th, Gurman says Meta is bringing Quest 3 in October.

Gonzax

No mention of FOV either, which I assume will be the same as Quest2’s, I hope not.
- Bob
  
  “Notably, Gurman says the actual clarity and VR displays within the Quest 3 feel “similar to those in the Quest 2 — despite the resolution being rumored to be slightly higher”
  
  We don’t know the magnitude of the increase in resolution over the Quest 2 however if the user felt the clarity and sharpness to be roughly on-par despite the increase, we can safely assume that the FOV will have increased slightly to allow the higher resolution panel to compensate.
  
  I’d wager the horizontal FOV may have increased to the extent of the Quest Pro – in other words the Quest 3 will use exactly the same lens arrangement.
  - Gonzax
    
    Yeah, it would make sense. I’ve never tried the Pro, though, so I don’t really know whether it makes a difference compared to the Q2 or not. For some reason this preview doesn’t sound too reliable to me, anyway, if it uses pancake lenses the clarity should be similar to the Pro and not Q2.
  - michael b
    
    Resolution does not equal FOV, so the article mentioning a slightly higher resolution does not mean a higher FOV. You can have a 1080 resolution on the same sized panel as a 4K resolution panel, with the same FOV. You’ll have a higher pixel density, meaning less or no screen door effect than the 1080 panels.
    - Bob
      
      Using the exact same rendering resolution as the Quest 2 over a wider field of view results in less perceived sharpness/clarity. Using a slightly higher rendering resolution over a wider field of view results in similar perceived sharpness/clarity. There is a correlation here.
      - michael b
        
        ??? I just said that you can have 2 different resolutions using the exact same sized panels, which results in the same FoV, but at a higher pixel density. Your original comment was about the FoV, and you stated it had a slightly higher resolution. A higher resolution does not mean a bigger FoV. Obviously stretching a similar resolution over a wider FoV reduces clarity… I literally just said as much by saying it comes down to pixel density. Not too sure what you’re trying to teach me here dude…
- F Michael
  
  If it has pancake lenses, you can expect around 105.
  - CaryMGVR
    
    It does not.
    - ViRGiN
      
      Does not have pancake lenses?
      - Tony
        
        It does. This fact was confirmed months ago.
    - F Michael
      
      Lol then I’m sticking to my Pico 4 and pcvr if that’s the case.
    - Andrew Jakobs
      
      It will have pancake lenses.
    - Tony
      
      Clarify your reply. It DOES have pancake lenses. You CANNOT guarantee 105 degree field of view as there are other other unknown factors. But 105 is a good guess and would be nice.
      - CaryMGVR
        
        Yes, it does.
        I misspoke before.
        Apologies.
      - Tony
        
        I did not see your correction later down the chat. Sorry.
      - michael b
        
        The article states there’s no mention of optics, whether it has the pancake lenses like the Quest Pro, or the fresnel lenses of the Quest 2. Though with the headset being smaller, and lighter, I’d suspect the lenses will be the pancake… it just hasn’t been confirmed yet. As for the 105 FOV guesstimation, the Pro is 106 horizontal, 96 vertical, which is supposedly 10% bigger than the Quest 2. HMD Geometry Database lists the Pro as 108 horizontal, 95.57 vertical, and 111.24 diagonal. I think diagonal is a better measurement to go by.
impurekind

Sorry, but if the only really noticeable improvement is some crappy passthrough stuff, this headset is just not interesting to me:

“The actual clarity and VR displays within the Quest 3 feel similar to those in the Quest 2 — despite the resolution being rumored to be slightly higher. But there are two areas where I saw major improvements: video pass-through for mixed reality and the device’s speedier performance. ” – from the article they linked

I really hope it’s improved the actual VR stuff much more than that.

Also, I’m a little worried that the controllers don’t do the built-in camera-based tracking of the Quest Pro’s controllers, yet don’t have the ring that’s usually required for the cameras on the headset to track them properly. If their tracking is just based on gyroscopes and accelerometers only, that’s an immediate red flag for me.

Let’s see how this develops. . . .
- ViRGiN
  
  I doubt Meta will commit to a worse tracking than on Quest 2.
  Remember, originally Rift S had 5 cameras, and it did not really have better tracking.
  
  As for “actual clarity” – these people are just randoms, not really VR-oriented folks. Quest Pro, at least on launch, also had the same Quest 2 visuals outside of main home menu. Recommended apps like for Meditation were aliased pixels mess. Quest Pro has better lenses which makes the image appear clearer, but it wasn’t a high res image to begin in. I suspect the same stuff here.
- Daniel Dobson
  
  Good question about the controllers – and I wonder if the depth sensor comes into play here?
  
  Quest 2 can identify hands optically and does a good job with depth I found when trying ‘Direct Touch’ + hand tracking. The depth sensor would likely increase the precision, and if we have the precise distance of the controllers from the headset, and optical tracking tells us the ‘origin of the controller’, then since the system also knows the field of view of the cameras, it can use trigonometry to determine the exact position of the controllers (and your hands).
  
  Purely speculation on my part of course.
eadVrim

The killer app of MR is if it capable of photogrammetry, to start a new era of teleportation chat. Inviting your friend to your room/house in VR and see his realistic avatar in AR.
- _Ham_
  
  There’s something called ‘NeRF’. Neural Radiation Field. It’s better than photogrammetry, and easily achievable. Developers will be able to use this technology if they can access to the camera.
  - Ninjatogo
    
    NeRFs require quite a bit of processing power to generate, so it wouldn’t really work for OPs idea of showing a friend your house.
    
    Photogrammetry is less demanding and can be done on smartphone level processors like the Quest 3 will use.
Martin

My money leaves my wallet when the FOV and resolution is significantly higher, but not until then. Color pass-through means meta gets an even greater resolution scan of my private dwelling.

One day you’re going to see on the news how police used a snapshot of a user’s dwelling to identify illegal substances in his home, and it won’t be revealed how they got that snapshot as the result of “an ongoing investigation”.

We are literally paying for our own surveillance. And say what you will about it being done locally on the headset all you want, but may I remind you of the Cambridge analytical scandal.
- Dragon Marble
  
  Come on, you phone can do the same thing. Fear of XR technology for privacy reasons is irrational. The governments already have more than enough tools; we already have a surveillance country: China, and it’s not because they some new tech that the west doesn’t.
  - CaryMGVR
    
    China will N-E-V-E-R have tech we don’t.
    They don’t make tech.
    All they DO do is steal what *we* make, then make a cheap copy of it.
    In the wise & immortal words of Mr. Vince McMahon:
    they are imitators, not innovators ….
    - Rudl Za Vedno
      
      We said the same thing for Japan 50 years ago and look at them now.
    - Andrew Jakobs
      
      Oh bullshit, China has developed a lot of tech. And the west has stolen just as much from China as the other way round. The US itself is the biggest fake around and is using tech developed by (citizens from) other countries and saying they developed it. A big mistake us isolating them so they will need to be even more selfsufficient.
      - ViRGiN
        
        Bold to say so much and yet provide no evidence.
        Where are chinese graphic cards? Where are chinese CPUs?
      - CaryMGVR
        
        The Chinese CPUs & GPUs are in a box in San Francisco
        waiting to be sent to a sweatshop labor farm to be knocked-off …. lol
      - Andrew Jakobs
        
        Available in china.. But not all GPU/CPU tech was developed by/in the US.
      - ViRGiN
        
        Do they even have GTX 1080 from 2016 equivalent? lol
      - ViRGiN
        
        Still unable to name even one product in China, lmao.
      - CaryMGVR
        
        So on top of everything else, you’re anti-American, as well ….
        Noted.
      - Andrew Jakobs
        
        Well, I don’t like countries who bully others.
      - CaryMGVR
        
        Funny how when the shit hits the fan, everyone comes
        fucking CRAWLING to that bully The United States Of America for help ….
      - Andrew Jakobs
        
        No they aren’t, the US is forcing itself on those countries, and are only helping if it really is in the interest of the US itself.
      - ViRGiN
        
        You are a big old clown.
- shadow9d9
  
  So, the least important parts. Nice!
Poagao

Sacrificing face- and eye-tracking for AR capabilities I’ll never use…basically I might as well keep my Quest 2, unless I win the lottery and can afford an Apple device.
- ViRGiN
  
  They sacrificied face and eye tracking that YOU will actually never use.
  You ain’t a developer.
  It’s obsolete as it is even for PCVR aided rendering.
  And VRchat where it could have actual use is for degenerates.
  - CaryMGVR
    
    Man, you aren’t kiddin’ ….
    I heard so much about “VR Chat” [VRC]! I tried it out.
    I felt like I needed a shower with a steel-bristle brush afterwatds.
    Any parent that lets their son or daughter use VRC should be arrested on the spot.
    - ViRGiN
      
      I especially love it when they double down and say you must have tried the standalone version, and PCVR is so much better! The PCVR exclusive worlds in 99% cases looks like what good Quest ports would be for Contractors.
- CaryMGVR
  
  Who are you kiddin’ …?? lol
  As soon as you see what Quest 3 has to offer,
  you’ll be on Amazon ordering one lickety-split.
another juan

for me the big news is that quest 3 will come in gray, like the snes or the ps1
- Andrew Jakobs
  
  Shame it doesn’t come in black.
CaryMGVR

It does.
- F Michael
  
  Okay adding you to the blocklist
ViRGiN

NO DISPLAY PORT = BUY!
- Andrew Jakobs
  
  I guess you put the exclamation mark in the wrong spot, for you.
  - ViRGiN
    
    it’s actually a parody/satire. i’ve read so many elitists comments like this, but with ‘no buy’.
  - CaryMGVR
    
    THAT’S your comeback …?? lol
    Jesus malloik, oofa.
ViRGiN

Maybe he was right. Was he 101% about deckard coming soon? lol

Let’s not forget that he basically bribed Meta employee to get the leaks, and share ad revenue. That’s not very journalistic.
- CaryMGVR
  
  You make a lot of sense.
  Most of the time ….
  This is one of thise times where you’re talking a lot of shit.
  
  Number one, Brad never ever EVER said Deckard was coming soon.
  Because everybody knows: NOTHING is “soon” with Valve.
  ESPECIALLY a cutting-edge VR HMD.
  
  Number two: as for paying for leaks by splitting ad revenue goes,
  those are some pretty bold claims,
  claims for which you have ZERO evidence for, by the way.
  
  Lastly: journalism, *I* think, means telling the truth.
  And as long as no one’s harmed, you get at that truth by using whatever.
  - ViRGiN
    
    Meta CTO Andrew Bosworth shared the news earlier this week with employees in an internal post seen by The Verge. He said Meta has cut ties with the leaker, who I’m told was a third-party contractor and asked Lynch for revenue share from the YouTube ads running against his videos. In his post to Meta employees, Bosworth confirmed that the unnamed leaker was paid a small sum for sharing the materials with Lynch.
    
    I don’t care about deckard. It doesn’t exist. If it was real, deck wouldn’t be 720p 30fps heavy overheating handheld. And suddenly it’s supposed to be standalone that can run pc games? If the is new vr product, then it’s yet another pcvr headset, in which case it’s obsolete on whenever it arrives
    - CaryMGVR
      
      I don’t wanna get into the Deckard stuff.
      The video explaining it all is more than an hour long ….
      
      So let’s talk about the leaker.
      - ViRGiN
        
        Don’t you think it’s kinda stupid to compare paying informants to paying employees related to the product development to leak info, for nothing more than personal gain (exposure, channel growth etc)?
        It’s no different than Chinese employees stealing US tech. There is also a reason why Americans are forbidden from working in certain chinese industries for as long as they hold American passport.
        
        That news circulated around the internet. Yeah, it’s just a collection of words forming a sentence. Bradley ignored all of it, not denied or confirmed anything. With the evidence presented, I am keen to believe that Bradley did dirt for personal gain.
        
        What’s the big deal if that’s what I believe?
      - CaryMGVR
        
        No, I don’t think it’s stupid.
        One has to pay to play sometimes.
        It’s not right.
        It’s not wrong.
        It’s just how the world works.
      - ViRGiN
        
        Either way, risking your high profile job for some internet likes seems like a horrible personal choice. I wouldn’t do it, at least not for “small sum” ot ad revenue lmao
      - CaryMGVR
        
        Weel, the leaker’s poor lifechoices are a whole other discussion entirely.
        Beyond the scope of this article, much less the RTVR blog as a whole.
xyzs

Depending on what Apple will show, this might become a abandoned prototype.
If Meta loose their technical reference status too much in front of Apple, they will have to step up and show something better than that.
- Andrew Jakobs
  
  Comparing a $500 standalone headset to a $3000 headset, which apearantly has a seperate compute unit on your belt?
  Get real, I’ll bet Meta can come up with a highly advanced headset if they also would be willing to ask $3000 for it.
  - xyzs
    
    Looks like their expensive $1500 headset was technologically disappointing. Price doesn’t fix everything.
    They are also 5 years late on everything they were stating years ago. Where are the 4k screens, the 140+ FOV, where is varifocal, the super small form factor etc… All these prototypes a few years ahead a few years ago…?
    - Andrew Jakobs
      
      5 years late on everything? which affordable headsets have 4k screens? NONE, which affordable headsets have 140+ FOV? NONE (well, only Pimax, but those headsets also have their big flaws). Which affordable super small form factors are there already? NONE. Which varifocal lenses are there already? NONE..
      Yes there were prototypes a few years ago already, but they all costs a fortune to actually put into production.
      what’s the use of 4K displays when there is no real GPU to drive them properly, and the GPU’s that are capable of driving a 4k/eye display cost a fortune, so only a very small group of people can afford it. So from a business perspective it just doesn’t make any sense to create a mainstream headset at this point in time which has 4K/eye displays.
      Only very pricey headsets have the specifications you mention, but they are not targeted at mainstream.
      If it was just that simple to create an affordable mainstream headset with all the specifications you mention and have it standalone, then there would already have been others who done it. Even Sony can’t deliver one on a budget.
      Ofcourse we all want those specs, but we have to be real and look at what the actual costs are to produce those headsets, that’s just a too small of a group which is willing to pay so much money for a headset like that.
      - xyzs
        
        You can defend how hard it is to achieve product development and I understand that, however Meta is now known for under-delivering.
        Like their Metaverse Horizon that costed MULTIPLE BILLIONS and that looks like a Gamecube empty multiplayer game.
        I think this company just doesn’t know how to spend their money properly.
        
        Whit such and amount of money, they could have achieve so much more. Just look at how small startups can do with a 1000th of their budget.
        I have 2 Quests, so it’s not even like I a please to face these real facts.
        
        I think they will simply slowly die from:
        -incompetence (horizon)
        
        -bad reputation (all data shady deal and trials)
        
        -lack of vision (so far their latest product failed to find it’s public)
        
        -lack of smart money management (stupid money wasts, like horizon, like 400 millions spent for supernatural etc)
        
        -better and better competition over the years (hello Apple)
        
        And in a few years, only Instagram and Facebook with keep them alive.
      - Andrew Jakobs
        
        I do agree on that they are wasting money, and should have actually listened to someone like Carmack. But there aren’t really any startups that actually released something special or new.
      - Foreign Devil
        
        eye tracking with foveated rendering was supposed to solve the problem of rendering to a 4K screen by only rendering full rez the small center of focus. .. But haven’t heard much news on that front lately.
    - CaryMGVR
      
      Abrash stinks.
      Filling people’s heads with BS that’s just experimental,
      but making people assume that it’s “just around the corner”.
      - ViRGiN
        
        Abrash is the genius, but sure, go ahead and watch 1 hour long rambling of bradley about lighthouse tech, cause that’s interesting.
      - CaryMGVR
        
        Abrash would look you in the face and tell you: “2+2=7”.
        That’s the vibe I get from him.
        I don,t think Bradley would do that.
        That’s the vibe I get from *him*.
      - ViRGiN
        
        The vibe I get from Bradley is “valve is a revolutionary company, but they don’t operate like standard one, you HAVE to understand that and then everything starts to make sense”
        
        You are just incapable of explaining your hatred, but hey, bradley is pro-valve so that’s up your alley.
        But he left Valve for Meta, yes.
      - ViRGiN
        
        your comment reminds me of recent “backlash” when carmack announced coming to some meetup of likeminded people, and it’s controversial cause these people said something other people did not like, and as “oppressed minority”, these people do get certain spotlight in public internet.
        so i am curious. what did abrash do to you? why does he stink?
        he left valve for meta and stays there to this day. is that why?
      - CaryMGVR
        
        He’s personally done nothing to me.
        He stinks because he talks down to people.
        And no: Meta, Valve, whatever have nothing to do with it.
- ViRGiN
  
  just wait for deckard, it will kill both pcvr, apple xr and standalone
  - ViRGiN
    
    correction: it will kill PSVR2 too!
Kevin Brook

For those of you concerned about the apparent low resolution, don’t be. The reason standalone doens’t look meaningfully better is because the XR2 Gen 2 chip won’t be meaningfully better.

The Quest 2 is about 1.1 teraflops, the PS5 powered PSVR 2 about 10.85 teraflops, the 4090 about 85 teraflops. I believe the XR2 Gen is around 3 teraflops, but will likely be less in practice due to thermal limitations.

So still garbage for high end PCVR users. My Quest Pro looks like ass in standalone mode, but absolutely incredible running on my 13900K, 4090 PC, making my old Reverb G2 and Vive Pro 2 look dog rough.

The Quest 3 will likely lack the nanoparticle enhanced colour gamut of the Quest Pro’s quantum dot layer and inky blacks thanks to local dimming, but it will surely still be a sizeable leap over every fresnel based headset every made.
- ViRGiN
  
  > for high end PCVR users.
  
  Such thing does not exist. It’s yet another year for blade and sorcery/gorilla tag/beat saber PCVR dominance. high end my ass.
  - F Michael
    
    Another misinformed idiot(Virgin) that doesn’t know how to Google.
    - ViRGiN
      
      Found one out of five people who call themselves “simmers”!
      - F Michael
        
        There’s a mod coming out that will bring 100s of current games to VR. Plus plenty of good VR mods and games. You would know that if you googled. Why do I waste my time?
      - ViRGiN
        
        You know that, cause you are running around a circlejerk of people who think MODERN VORPX WILL CHANGE PCVR GAMING FOREVER!
        you have 100s of “current” games coming to VR. why even waste time on website like this? you shouldn’t have time for anything else for the next 7 years.
        
        I know EXACTLY what you’re talking about, and I know you EXACTLY are excited about these shitty indie unreal games with no real controlls, BECAUSE pcvr has had nothing to offer for several years!
        Cope!
      - F Michael
        
        You’re obviously a troll. Anyone who has used pcvr has followed the development of praydog’s ue4 mod. At this point I don’t understand why I waste my time with you.
      - ViRGiN
        
        anyone who has followed praydog mod knows it’s coming “soon” for the past half a year already.
        and literally nobody cares outside of people who are happy to blame PCVR death on standalone existence.
        go dust off your keyboard and mouse, gonna need it to play all these unreal indie classics.
        cope bro. you are a ridiculous clown, a perfect stereotypical representative who consider praydog a god.
      - F Michael
        
        It comes out this year. You sound jealous.
      - ViRGiN
        
        you sound triggered.
        why would i get excited about this shitty mod not making use of modern vr day controls?
        i did that 10 years ago with vorpx, and i wasn’t limited to unreal games. i’ve seen the youtube channel. i couldn’t find a single game i was interested in lol. all the actually HOT games are on their own engine. but yeah poppy playtime in vr is gonna rock! stray the cat will make standalone die!
        why are you still wasting time?
        it gets delayed more and more, for good reasons probably, but it’s still an ACCESSORY to PCVR. just like you can play NES games with your RTX4090. nobody cares. it’s not the hot shit you making it up to be. stop talking about shitty mods and tell me about state of PCVR?
        
        praydog is like a little shitstain on your shirt compared to something like a Doom 3 VR mod or Half Life 2 VR mod. which i will remind you, i played half life 2 OFFICIALLY FROM VALVE 10 years in 2013. and yet you can’t comprehend that playing SHITTY UNREAL games in 2023 with no VR controls (CONTROLS, NOT VR 3D MOUSE) does not excite me?
        
        you are praydog addicted, i bet you must be a discord moderator at flat2vr. and people like you feed of comments like mine, circlejerking _how wrong_ i am in your own community.
      - F Michael
        
        I’m not the one who wrote a wall of text there. You’re the one who seems triggered and also a troll. Added you to the block list. Get some help.
      - ViRGiN
        
        22 minutes later and you still haven’t done it.
        You’re the triggered one who comes into Quest 3 thread with PRAYDOG UNREAL MOD LMAO!
        
        ANOTHER CULTIST!
      - F Michael
        
        Ugh…what’s the matter with this guy? You need to find something to do man. You’re blocked now. Happy?
      - ViRGiN
        
        You still here in Quest 3 talking about praydog? Sounds like mental health problem.
      - kool
        
        Lol I think I finally get your logic, you don’t like pcvr games because they don’t have physical controls with the vr mods. If that’s true that sux and no devs support vr natively. Why don’t the modders just make a physical vr control program in unreal 5 so they can add it in better games? Also couldn’t you just use a gun stock for emersion since most PC games are fps?
      - ViRGiN
        
        half the shooting fun is not shooting, it’s reloading.
        and praydog doesn’t allow anything other than pressing a keyboard button lol.
        praydog is a cope-out for pcvr elitists who sees standalone as market killer
      - CaryMGVR
        
        CJing is a humongous problem online, that’s absolutely 1000% true.
- shadow9d9
  
  Imagine being obsessed with graphics as an adult.
  - Kevin Brook
    
    Odd comment. I just appreciate realistic, high quality experiences, like Microsoft Flight Simulator, and not being a child or young teen, I can afford to invest in higher quality than extreme budget focused, mobile gaming.
Andrew Jakobs

Meta is also expected to concurrently offer Quest 2, making for the widest headset lineup the company has ever offered at one time.
Ofcourse until the quest 2 inventory has cleared, just like with the first Quest.
- ViRGiN
  
  Did they?
  I remember Quest 1 stopped being sold by Meta/main retailers in advance to Quest 2 reveal. There was no price drop for Q1 unti much much later when they started offering both I think.
  Q1 was even more expensive than Q2.
F Michael

What’s the point of this comment?
- ViRGiN
  
  Solid? It’s functional, but doesn’t offer anything new or special. It’s a much worse version of Quest 2, albeit with pancake lenses.
  - F Michael
    
    Higher resolution, higher FOV, more comfort, better lenses, color passthrough. Did you even bother to Google? Could you be any more clueless? I upgraded to this from a quest 2. I’m not the only one either.
    - ViRGiN
      
      Worse tracking? Worse battery life? Running at 100% performance in home menu?
      Keep reading Google. I heard Valve Index is still the best headset!
      - F Michael
        
        Everything you’ve mentioned has been fixed in updates. What a loser.
      - ViRGiN
        
        That’s cool! Now go enjoy your standalone headset paired with PCVR using non VR games and call it high end. AMAZING!
      - F Michael
        
        I will. Now piss off please.
      - CaryMGVR
        
        Haha!
        ‘attaboy!
        *tussles hair*
      - Tony
        
        A troll and a virgin.
      - LMAO
        
        Ignorant troll alert!
      - CaryMGVR
        
        I thought Gurman was the only one with a handson.
        Where’d you hear all that other stuff …??
    - CaryMGVR
      
      You just wasted hundreds of dollars.
      P4 is cheap, stopgap junk between Quest 2/Apple Reality PRO/Quest 3.
      Preying on enthusiasts who now want something more than Quest 2 but don’t wanna wait until Meta Connect 2 in October.
  - Tony
    
    It doesn’t offer anything new or special except:
    Quest 3 is slimmer
    higher resolution
    greater pixel density
    color passthrough
    new processor
    new ringless controllers
    new launch titles for XR2 Gen 2.
    There are more things to list, but you can google these yourself.
    - ViRGiN
      
      or you can re-read the comment and realize it’s about adressing pico 4.
- CaryMGVR
  
  Plenty of people have it WHERE …?? lol
xyzs

Because you still think that there aren’t millions of people with 3k to spend for an Apple product ?
- CaryMGVR
  
  If you’ll note my use of the phrase:
  “QUICKLY putting a billion people in VR.”
  And I dunno what that has to do with anything anyway
  since I NEVER SAID Apple won’t get a billion into THIER HMD.
  So I dunno wtf you’re talking about.
- ViRGiN
  
  How many PC gaming users moved to buy Valve Index headset? LMAO
ViRGiN

Afghan from MW2 was added few days ago, it looks essentially PCVR on Quest 2. Hell, it looks years ahead of PCVR exclusive Pavlov lol.
I am mainly excited for Quest 3 new power capabilities and pancake lenses. That’s all I really need.
Jeff

You rude fatboy
Daft PUnk

Haha you fall into logic trap. Billion dollar engineers haha they will build you matrix. Dumb ass comment – you want it to be true – so you claim it will be true because of billion dollar engineers. Evidence you don’t give us.
- CaryMGVR
  
  Um, you OK man …?
  Maybe you should talk to somebody, y’know …?
ViRGiN

He also got sick of every VR demo while being the face of VR company.
Brandan is an opportunist, not a VR believer. He invested into Sketchfab, that to this day does not have a REAL, USEFUL VR MODE to browse thousands of well crafted models. Fuck brendan.
ViRGiN

it wasn’t “that” hot. it just got 80k usd on kickstarter, and i think asked like half a million for quest port that never reached it
ViRGiN

was there an announcement for thursday?
- CaryMGVR
  
  Yes, the 2023 “Oculus Gaming Showcase” [OGS] will be on THU-01JUN at 1645 GMT.
  So I’m saying the game I’m looking forward to most this year is “Low-Fi”.
  But maybe [hopefully!!] the OGS on Thursday will change my mind.
CrusaderCaracal

Debating if i should sell my vive pro and get this
- Andrew Jakobs
  
  I’ll just wait until it’s actually released, and maybe by that time Samsung and Valve also made an announcement on their new headsets (or maybe even Pico 5 or something like that).
  - CrusaderCaracal
    
    Yeah, maybe. just trying to get something standalone, sick of basestations
Foreign Devil

Exactly my sentiment. I don’t care about “amazing passthrough” I use VR to experience VR worlds. . not my bedroom. Should have focused instead on improving resolution and clarity and comfort to make it a real screen replacement.
- sfmike
  
  I agree as I find passthrough really over hyped.
  - ViRGiN
    
    Overhyped? Passthrough is meant for checking your surroundings. Then it got extended to XR as sort of devkit to build future experiences.
    And it’s overhyped? lol
Foreign Devil

I”m concerned. I prefer PC powered VR and since I use VR for immersion I don’t care about “great passthrough”.. . You want great passthrough? Take off the HMD and look at your room directly!

Very disappointed there is no marked improvement in resolution or optics over the Quest 2 according to these early reviews. I’ll be looking beyond the Quest family next time I upgrade.
- shadow9d9
  
  Early reviews? What? It’ll have pancake lenses. 1 6 month clearly limited experienced preview is meaningless.
impurekind

Trust me, if they did then you would be getting an even better product.
Yeshaya

I wonder if the strap and backing are similar enough to the Q2 that I’ll be able to use my existing straps. Bonus points too if the Quest 2 controllers are compatible and they offer a cheaper headset-only option.
Charles

This sounds like a very-slight upgrade on what really matters. I’m assuming it’s still LCD, without automatic brightness adjustment. Extremely underwhelming compared to just about everything else. Looking forward to the Bigscreen Beyond.
- ViRGiN
  
  Yup, I’m excited about Bigscreen Beyond as well. I think the light and small form factor will make half life alyx far more immersive than ever before! Can’t wait for another playthrough! There is hidden surprise on every corner! I don’t even need any other games.
  - Charles
    
    Do I detect a note of sarcasm?
    - ViRGiN
      
      and I would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for those meddling kids!
      - Charles
        
        Those meddling kids and their sarcasm detector. It was off-the-charts.
Worksa7

No resolution benefits…not much of a hardware bump….no controller improvements….like…no real new meaningful features….what is even the point then?
You raised the price of the quest 2 for this? Really?
Guywithamouse

With pancake lenses, there is no way Quest 3 will “feel similar”.